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Selling your self?

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Deleted Account, Nov 21, 2021.

  1. she-dernatinus

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    As much as I'd care about my kids, I very much understand that seeing their mother degraded and used can scar them deeply. If there is any sacrifice I can do for them, is to preserve my worth and pride and therefore theirs as well.
     
  2. Psalm27:1my light

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    See, I think it would be far worse to lose your mother. I want to be here for my kids as long as possible. But I do understand what your saying. Like I said. At your age I thought exactly the same thing. Someone abusing you does not diminish your worth nor give you anything to be ashamed of.
     
  3. she-dernatinus

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    I believe it very much does, in case some woman thinks choosing to sell herself is doing her kids a favor, she is terribly mistaken. I'd rather have my children remember me as insanely prideful than as a woman who cowardly sacrificed her body. The second case will give the children a life of guilt, for being the reason their mother had been used horribly by men who think nothing of buying a woman's body like a mere object.
     
  4. Beekind

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    I agree to some of what you said.
    but women as visual as men????? you have no idea since you have never been a man. Men's sexual drive is humungous. A man who wants to be celibate in this day and age is like torture every day. I haven't seen women being triggered by seeing a man's leg or feet or chest. You have no idea. We men are designed to be triggered by the skin. You women are designed to be triggered by character and posture ( pride).
     
  5. she-dernatinus

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    And as a woman, I can tell you we are as much visual as you are. The male body is attractive and fascinating to see, just go see the women's sections to sate your curiosity. The reason you men are ignorant about this is that we tend to keep it secret as societal standards tell us it's unwomanly to be visually attracted to males. Growing up we were taught the only 'valid' gaze is the male gaze, and women acting in the same regard is seen as 'abnormal'.
     
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  6. she-dernatinus

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    This is exactly what I've been referring to, considering females as ornamental sexual objects rhyme with privileging men as sexual subjects. Hence why you mentioned presence and posture as the most desirable male traits, at least from your pov.
     
  7. Beekind

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    It runs very deep and it is in our DNA. i am telling you, you have no idea.
    A man who is trying to stay pure is a man attempting the impossible.
    If the man's body is triggering as you said, why are cam sites more than 90% females and the 10% of men there only cater to gay men?
    Most women who watch porn are into BDSM , because they crave the masculine power that we are losing in our time. i haven't seen a woman in my entire life watching men's cams and masturbating to it....never in my entire life. not even once.
    If you want to find by yourself , go and check any cam site and you will realise the magnitude of difference between men and women in regards to visual stimulation.
     
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  8. she-dernatinus

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    All that you stated happens accordingly to the visual men/objectifying women dichotomy. And it's not a genetic trait, it's a form of social conditioning and dogma. Women do have an interest in men and their physiology, hence why heterosexuality exists in females. The only difference is that we feel reluctant to express those interests the same way men do since the phallocentric cultures we live in deny this part of our sexuality, which causes us a lot of discomforts.

    And no, only a minority of women go to the BDSM genre. Those women, in particular, tend to have self-esteem issues and a deep loathing for their femininity. I know more cases of girls who watch solo male P, than girls who seek to torture themselves. Even on this platform, many female users confessed to having a preference for male solos.

    As for the cam sites, I'd advise you to look into other types of media. Many female fanfic writers have a particular way to describe male characters' physical attractiveness in erotic scenes. A lot of Tumblr girl artists draw nudes of male characters they like, the same goes for Deviantart too. There is a reason many young men do their best to maintain a good shape. Another reason women avoid cam sites is that they don't feel comfortable enough exposing their visual tendencies and even fear being targeted by online harassment.
     
  9. she-dernatinus

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    @Beekind why don't you visit the women's section on this forum? Or look for online written content by women relating to this topic?
     
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  10. Beekind

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    Whatever. I am not interested in this thread anymore.
    All i have to say is that you have no idea.
     
  11. she-dernatinus

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    To me, it seems like you are ignorant about many things regarding us females. And by the way, did you look into it?
     
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  12. Beekind

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    Girl , every time i argue with a feminist, she mentions social conditioning....
    And guess what, it is true but the conditioning happened over thousands if not millions of years.
    The male and female brains are fundamentally different at birth.
    Not here to argue. Just stating facts
     
  13. she-dernatinus

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    We mention it because it's true. Social conditioning is an influential factor in shaping minds, and different social expectations lead to different expressions of sexuality. But you didn't answer my question.
     
  14. she-dernatinus

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    And here is another fact, women are visual exactly like men. And I am sure you found results that confirm this.
     
  15. Redemptionisrequired

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    I would have to agree. If this wasn't the case, mainstream movies such as Magic Mike , would not have been successful.

    Men and women will work hard on their physical appearance for exactly this fact, we are both visual. Although, depending on the cultural background, women may be more cautious about showing it.
     
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  16. she-dernatinus

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    I can't describe how accurate it is. This fact caused many of us to feel isolated, and confused. Until we decided to co-exist with those desires instead of denying them.
     
  17. I know what it's like as a guy selling self. Wealthy men cheating on their wives/husbands would pay me.
    The number of clients in marriage/relationship outnumbered the guys who were single.
     
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  18. Beekind

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    Did u have any female "clients/ fans"?
     
  19. None that would buy. One in particular wanted something digital on her birthday but never happened. All the females were dirty talk buddies and that was our relationship
     
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  20. Beekind

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    @she-dernatinus i rest my case.
    Females will rarely pay for cams ( if any) . Because they aren't visual beings.
     

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