SOs - Please Read "My Girlfriend Cheated On Me" Thread in Partners Support

Firstly, I do not even think in terms of what I described in this post. This post is merely a reflection of the juvenile sentiment that was given by the person I was responding to. Was my response juvenile? Absolutely, that's how I intended it to be. I don't prescribe to "red pill", "blue bill" nonsense. You might also take that to mean that I am putting myself above people that do. That is not my intention. As you said, things can be taken in many ways. How it is taken is not up to me.

Also, who gives YOU the right to say "I am not the judge", maybe I am, you don't know. Not that I am saying that I am the judge, you just don't know. That's what everyone is doing here in case you haven't noticed it. We just learn how to express ourselves differently.

Lastly, and just for the sake of clarity I am 150+ days without PMOing. My NoFap counter is not for PMOing. You can take a look at my signature again to see that if you want to.

Be well, your honor!

 

@DefendMyHeart What you experienced makes sense, I had actually posted my message a while ago (same as the last time i replied in this thread I believe) but my message was under moderation because I messaged twice in a row, and just popped now (a bit late in my opinion). Seeing JustName's messages in any other threads I agree he is very close-minded. My guess (or hope rather) is he's 14 years old in real life, and will grow out of this eventually. The "Saint-Sperm" nickname is really the highlight of that thread

@AngelofDarkness Wow, you really were able to put into words a thought I struggled to articulate. Great contribution to the argument. Glad you dropped in. That is one healthy debate.

@eagle rising What can I say... I was completely in agreement with you in your first paragraph and was thinking "ahh, that makes sense now". But man, you lost me on the second one; "who are you to tell me I am not the judge? maybe I am the judge "... seriously ? That is the most hilarious thing I have read since Saint-Sperm a few minutes ago (hehe).

Here is a shocker for you: There is no judge (omg I revealed the big secret)! There is no one judge of real men and real women, so yes, I assert you are not the judge (unless you think of yourself as some secret online messiah), and neither am I. If you think there are accredited judges granting judgement on who is a real man/woman, then a philosophical debate on this is needed. It would be hilarious, especially if your evidence is pointing to you being the judge (or pointing to Marilyn Manson being the judge, that would be even better).

Lastly, we were both in agreement on Justname's juvenile behavior in your previous post then. Also, I don't care about streaks either. Good job on your 150 days streak and I do think your "Avoidance of addictive behavior" counter is even nicer than a streak counter.

Cheers, CyberJesus!

 

Love it! "Eagle rising" --> "CyberJesus". I will make it happen.

 

First of all, this thread is about completely another thread and topic and you guys could just shut up becouse you don`t have any business bringing me into this thread and gossiping me xD

@Cleanhead8020 Why i am close minded? If i say water is blue, am i close minded? I am spreading into these threads what is shown by science, or am i close minded becouse i am calling out people`s bullshit? You don`t know anyting about me yet you bringing claims about me, which is very childlish from you. With that `you are immature` you are programming people how they should act and how they should not act. Your idea of maturity is being dumb serious zombie. You you are not going to tell me how i should act xD you are not red pill or at least you don`t have enough knowledge about it, your conversations here are not auntenthic and you are even apologizing to people for having your opinions. In that thread `stop with idiotism` i did not get 1 or 2 valid arguments, all reactions i got was loud crying, dramming and then i realized how most people here are weak minded. I felt sad for those people becouse i could troll them 100 times harder then they trolling me but i know they wouldn`t be able to stop thinking about me for 10 days and i would probabbly get a ban xD i completely forgot about that thread and that discussion weeks ago but other people here as i can see, like EagleRising and DefendMyHeart still remembering me and even hating me, which is again another proof of week mind. And by the way, you already lost. It would be great if some of you guys give some arguments instead of just saying ` you are childlish ` becouse that is exactly what people do when they don`t have any arguments and they lose debate. Just like all that people in `stop with idiotism` is scientificaly proven that people acting just like that when they lose debate and being without arguments

 

And there you are, I feel privileged now being the target of one of these rants.

"Why i am close minded? If i say water is blue, am i close minded? I am spreading into these threads what is shown by science". You sound like someone who would have been burning people in the name of the lord, centuries ago. You would have been spreading fire by what is shown by the lord.

I am not programming anyone. Didn't you just say you were calling people's bullshit in your posts ? Well I just did the same to you, and you just did the same to me, guess what, that's called an opinion. I don't have any authority here, i have started posting only recently and no one knows me. So programming my a**. You sound like someone that has read half a book on NLP and thinks he's a master of human behavior.

My idea of maturity is one of a zombie ? Here is your idea of maturity:

"I felt sad for those people becouse i could troll them 100 times harder then they trolling me but i know they wouldn`t be able to stop thinking about me for 10 days and i would probabbly get a ban xD ". Trolling people...how mature. You are a man of high worth to spend your time trolling people, that is scientifically proven.

About arguments, what you said applies to you, repeating the same dogmatic and generic gospel and adding lololol XD after some weak rhetoric

I am weak because I apologized ? I called out someone (yes, women are people) on something she did not do. That was my mistake and it deserves an apology in my book, you should try it sometimes, that is scientifically proven.

Lastly, I know exactly what red pill is, I have 3 books by Rollo Tomassi, have the internet and am on 5 MGTOW group on Facebook (back when I was on it anyways). I agree men have it rough in today's feministic society. Women don't have it easy either in this screwed up world though...BUT, I don't agree blindly with all that red pill ideology is saying, some stuff sticks some does not. Lots of people in red pill/MGTOW are extremely bitter and toxic. Women are people, just as men are, I don't think any gender is better. And we don't choose ours, so there is no merit being born in either camp. Dismising all the other gender as weak, twisted, selfish or crazy is insane to me. I understand people got hurt in life by some screwed up individuals, I have, but I don't think it has anything to do with gender wars. Yes, some women do hypergamy, and I also know men who cheat and don't care. I know lots of women who are genuinely good persons and have no agenda such as the ones redpill/MGTOW ideology says, and I'm no white knight blue pill myself, and that is scientifically proven ;-)

 

I educated myself about things which are proven by science, research and thousands of personal experiences. Which means, that is 100% true. What that has to do with burning people? I am giving advices which will surely help people, while you just like most people here blablablaing and giving advices out of your own personal anecdotas, which every idiot can do

And for your information, i am not religions. You seem like a someone to who conspiracy theories completely blew mind

Hahaha zero arguments and then doing exactly what i described. You lost

Of course your idea of maturity iz zombie. I did not say that i was trolling people, i said i could. The ones was trolling was them

Yes i did that a few times, but i gave arguments too. Others do that but don`t give any arguments

And i see women as people. Dismising women and not wanting to do anyting with them, going MGTOW is black pill, not red pill. Their response towards whole thing is completely different then red pill. For your information, i call MGTOW pathetic

Let me show you now to which point you are not authentic xD

first i said what alpha male means
then EagleRising disagreed with me, said the opposite and called me childlish
then you said same things as i did (disagreeing with him )
then you said you agree with him

Can you be real for some seconds??? Your behaviors are so fake xDDDD

* Cleanhead DETERMINATED *

 

Ah, part of me wishes I had more time to argue with you for the fun or it but it is time consuming and accomplishing nothing, so here goes my last message to you;

1. Every idiot can claim he is using science without providing any scientific evidence. And thousands of people agreeing to somethings is not called a proof. Millions of people have different viewpoints on different subjects.
2. Conspiracy theories ? me ? *sigh*
3. Lost what I'm not sure, I'm not trying to win anything, I'm interested in healthy debates which help us strive toward clearer understandings (altough i still engage in some trivial arguments sometimes, such as this one, but they are time wasters and don't produce any insights, hence why it's my last reply to you).
4. MGTOW is not black pill, those are incels. Anyways, I think the pills thing is getting ridiculous, there's now all kinds of pills. But this ideology lacks compassion and the human element IMO
5.a Not being in an argument to win, means I don't shoot the messengers. So indeed, I can disagree with things some people say, and agree with other things they say. It's not because I'm not agreeing on something with someone that I have to disagree on everything they are saying. That was clearly explicit in my messages but you missed it, I was not in agreement with you btw, that was an example I was giving to eagle, who was apparently just using sarcasm.

5.b Following your logic, let's say you finally get out of your Mom's basement to ask her to make you a meatloaf, but she says "meatloaf sandwiches are stupid lololol you lost XD", does that mean that you won't agree with her on anything else ever again ?
5.c MOOOOOM MEATLOAF!! (that is a Wedding Crashers reference by the way)
6. I am determinated, so thank you for saying so!

Good luck living a fulfilled life man, I truly wish you the best, adios

 

@Cleanhead8020 Hehe, what a nonsence ^^

1. You said i don`t have science becouse you lost. Ask me for anyting for science and i will send it
2. By your logic, we should contradict for what we know it is 100% true, which is epitome of stupidity
3. You are contradicting yourself, becouse you started this debate, then you say you don`t like these type of debates ^^
4. I am shooting messengers, while you are copying my texts. What`s the difference by your stupid logic
5. You said i did something i didn`t do, are you going to apologize? Of course you won`t xD if i was woman you would apologize in speed of light, but you still saying you are not white knight
6. You was focusing on only 1 thing he was saying, nothing else
7. Change your profile picture, you embarrasing goku
8. Go away, you are smarter when you are silent xD

 

After reading the thread I will only say one thing to all the addicts SO in here:

I would ask you to seriously consider whether you would wish to spend the rest of your life with somebody who willingly and voluntarily deceived you, went behind your back and ruined your relationship. I know fully well that it is difficult to look objectively at these situations when you are very personally invested but given this new revelation, please consider that perhaps the person you were in love with never truly existed, because the person you were in love with would not do something this terrible to you.

 

The contrast is illuminating, but are you illuminated?
Or still "committed to being a resource"?

 

Beautifully said

 

I really thank you for addressing all these issues. It's really hard to have a partner that fantasizes about other women when their sleeping with you. No man or partner would want to feel this way but yet they defend it. Even if porn is not considered cheating to some why don't people understand it is just as bad even if we want to call it something else. But at least there are men like you that hopefully one day will help to change the culture and maybe the next generation will understand if its too late for this set of people.

 

The guys on that thread saying to leave her are right to say that. If she chose to stay with him, that's her choice. She could have left, but didn't. Physical cheating and porn just aren't the same thing. I understand why women feel betrayed when their boyfriend/husband watches porn, and I empathize with them. I would be just as hurt if a woman I was with watched porn compulsively. But masturbating to porn and physical cheating are not the same. He should leave her because physical cheating is a sign that the relationship is broken. He should leave, break his porn addiction WHILE SINGLE, and then try to meet new women. That's all the guys on that thread were saying. You guys misinterpret this as hypocrisy. It really isn't. Women who view porn as adultery SHOULD LEAVE, because in THEIR minds, the man has cheated and crossed that boundary. But this guy's girlfriend didn't leave. Instead, she cheated on him.

Honestly, it's better to start fresh when things like this happen. Leave her, break the addiction while you are single, and then meet good women to have real relationships with. That's all the guys were saying. Definitely not deflecting guilt. I would give the same advice to women who are with sex addicts. If you stay, you are risking being hurt again and again. You tell me which is better, staying with someone who continually hurts you to the point of PTSD or betrayal trauma, or leaving, healing, and finding someone new. THIS is what the guys were saying. His girlfriend chose to stay, obviously got hurt again and again, but still didn't leave. I would have told her to leave if she FELT cheated on. How is that a double standard? I broke my addiction to the point where I am now disgusted by porn, so I am not speaking from an addict's point of view. I am saying this from a point of sobriety, physical cheating is like porn x 1000. Is IS worse than porn, because porn is fantasy, physical cheating is reality. They cannot logically be the same.

 

You would be happy to know that Pornhub is under massive scrutiny right now because of sex trafficking and child porn. A world without pornography might actually become a reality in the future. It is just a matter of time. Men, especially young men, are waking up and reclaiming their masculinity.

 

I hope it changes things. I hope men and women see that's it's wrong one day and that they truly don't want it anymore.

 

On the flip side, I heard on NPR this week that porn usage has increased by 25% during the pandemic

 

I wish it would become the norm not to watch porn but people are going to do what they want.

 

lock a bunch of people in their houses and it was bound to happen.

 

Yeah we are destroying ourselves. The time we spend watching other people do stuff we could be doing it ourselves. I mean that outside of porn also. I mean being productive.

 

You can't hide from the demon forever. The pandemic may increase porn usage. But those people WILL have to face the music one day. It might be tomorrow or in 10 years. But it will happen. You know what they say in 12 steps? "Either you go crazy or you die, whichever happens first." That is the fate of addicts that don't care.