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Why are people (mainly women) trying to discourage me?

Discussion in 'Self Improvement' started by Zen Meister, Aug 13, 2015.

  1. Ever since I've stopped fapping I've been taking great measures to improve areas of my life such as, dealing with anxiety & depression, diet, exercise and fitness. I'm so charged up by my new mindset... so early on today people have been asking how am I going about self improving, they obviously don't know about NoFap cause its none of their business, today there was absolutely nothing that can put doubt into my mind... except for when I spoke to females in my life... I don't know man but to me it seems like everything that comes out of their mouth spelled discouragement, they actually tried to advise me not to get into nutrition just incase I become obsessed as in OCD about it, it just got me thinking, why aren't they showing support in the things that mean a lot to me during my recovery, why would my path to greatness and being the best version of myself incite contempt? I mean I don't know if any of you can relate but I just felt that everything coming out of females mouths were misleading and it completely contradicted what encompasses me right now. I still have looooong way to go and right yes I do feel my physical, mental recovery seems impossible but I feel a little less defeated this time last month than I am right now. Could the way I envision myself scare people and make them feel inaquadate about themselves? My new mindset starts with my health since fapping was destroying my health but eventually it'll spread to other areas of my life, I'm not bothered by it but Im trying to rationalise their thinking... I thought they would atleast make comments that were a bit more supportive or at least add something that was useful. whats that all about?
     
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  2. DannyCool

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    Yes definitely. I have had to be assertive so that I was 100% sure what I was doing cause other people wanted to stop me. It is against societal norms is one reason and because they are not doing it themselves they get jealous. We have to stick to the plan knowing what works and helps.
     
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  3. I'm glad someone else sees what I am seeing, I'm no way near where I want to be but thru my journey so far I'm getting the sense that people within my social circles and people I've known years are actually telling me to tone things down and it might be beneficial for me to not get too deep into it, next month I also plan on starting on exercising and muay thai once I get body in decent shape. Its literally astounding to me that anyone would feel anything but inspired by my mindset. Today I cooked my very first balance meal for my meal plan for strength and performance growth, which is my surplus calories till I reach my goal then hit a maintience calorie. I put effort into seasoning and cooking chicken to weighting out the amount of vegetables and rice my body needs. I was actually quite proud of myself, now I have a breakfast, lunch and dinner for my purposes all planned out, with maybe some protein shakes/smoothies in between. I know I will have days where I will think that its taking me no where and I might feel really low of myself, the last thing I need is people discouraging me on that day.
     
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  4. Indignation

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    Awesome! It takes dedication/discipline to prepare healthy meals! I try to eat healthy but I sometimes don't have that option. Props on doing your best to better yourself man! You are inspiring to me and the community.

    My opinion. Don't tone things down. I have no clue why they would say that. Besides what you said before. They are afraid of you surpassing them.
     
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  5. Thanks you too for your encouragement, I knew I'd find it here in this community as we all share similar goals. Keep pushing bro, keep pushing to your maximum potential, they are very afraid of us. The men are afraid that you'll be stronger than them while they continue weakening their bodies and minds with fapping and porn and women are afraid that you may become unattainable for them once they want to settle down as they get older. Believe or not you guys are more inspiring to me in more ways than you can even imagine. Keep striving!
     
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  6. Temujin

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    I've definitely found this. I think it's because as you do self improvement you are challenging the image that people have in their minds about you. I've never had a positive reaction from anyone when telling them about how I'm improving my life.

    I now follow the method of 'Show people the results, not the method'. I feel this to be the correct way.
     
  7. DannyCool

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    If they can learn from you well and good. You told me about dreamviews and I am loving it there or it was in your thread about dreamviews anyhow. To learn from someone you need to be non judgemental and joyful (happy at their success). I generally find telling people what to do or even telling them when they are not really asking as looking for trouble. First of all I need to really appreciate them for their positive points and then they really really need to want to know otherwise there is a reaction and trust me I know about the reactions they are happening all around me at the moment. It is just a lack of understanding and it helps to dissolve the old ego!
     
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  8. Temujin

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    Yes I am very open here about what I do and what I've found works. I find that many people who are interested in NoFap are also interested in self-improvement like me so I feel I can be very open here. It is a great place to share ideas and I've found some good advice here I've incorporated into my life.
     
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  9. Congrelous

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    Don't listen to what people say if what comes out of their mouth smells like garbage.
     
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  10. RyanRVA

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    Dr Spock was my hero growing up. Everything that came out of his mouth was solid gold. As everyone else is saying, people don't like to hear about self improvement because they feel pressure to improve themselves. I had to keep going vegetarian a secret, people would have lost their minds. Brought my own food to work every day so no one really figured it out until I had been doing it for half a year. By then it didn't really make a damn difference what they said about it :)
     
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  11. buzzlightyear

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    Need to add something too,

    I stopped drinking and I swear most of my friends thought I had a disease, they couldn't and most still can't respect the choice I made. (I started enjoying clarity of mind)

    Note too that if your way of life starts to differ too much from the people you hang out with, they don't feel like calling you no more. I they do they mostly want you to do what makes them comfortable, they want you to "drink" with them.

    fortunately or unfortunately a lot of people drink.

    Goodluck all!
     
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  12. Eric'sBlue

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    I've noticed what you're talking about, mainly with women of course, and I think it has to do something with an overprotective nurturing instinct - which can actually be crippling, and they don't notice it. It's just sort of autopilot for them. They don't realize it's doing damage. See the issue here is that both sides need to look and see the intent behind what each other is saying. Once that happens - things will clear up. She will understand you are coming from a positive place.

    I've also found that going into a situation fearing you might get a reaction you spoke of - can prompt you to sound reticent...unsure of yourself - even though you're not... and what this can actually do is trigger a likewise response from the other person who is "trying to help you" and ....is picking up on your fear.

    So, try to go into it with a confidence and convey the essence and intent of where you are, not the fear of anything else.


    Pc.


    “Therefore, be ye lamps unto yourselves, be a refuge to yourselves. Hold fast to Truth as a lamp; hold fast to the truth as a refuge. Look not for a refuge in anyone beside yourselves. And those, who shall be a lamp unto themselves, shall betake themselves to no external refuge, but holding fast to the Truth as their lamp, and holding fast to the Truth as their refuge, they shall reach the topmost height.”

    -The Buddha
     
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  13. IGY

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    @RyanRVA: Do you mean Dr Benjamin Spock or Mr Spock? :confused:
     
  14. RyanRVA

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    Mr Spock from Star Trek
     
  15. IGY

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    Yeah, me too! :)
     
  16. Zin

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    Maybe they feel like they are being left behind. Jealousy I say. But what do I know about women?
     
  17. headon.collision

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    thats how women are, 1st they resist u changing urself then they love u for it. ur scaring them cuz ur taking action, ur becoming harder to control and unpredictable. keep up the good work and carve ur own path. there is a reason why a movement such as MGTOW exist it's cuz of such behavior women exert on us when we want to become better. not all of them of course but I have experienced this occasionally
     
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  18. Powerof3

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    Well I don't see a problem with what these women are saying. You said that they are worried about you becoming obsessive about it; they are not saying "eat like a pig, you'll be fine", rather, don't think about your food so much that you forget to eat. As a general rule eat fruit and veg and make sure you eat all the colours. Oh and if you decide vegetarianism is for you, ease into it, a complete change of diet is a good way to fuck you up. My Italian friend had to be off work for a week and went into hospital because she moved into her boyfriends house and suddenly went from an Italian diet, which is fairly light, to English diet which is very heavy.
     
  19. Magor

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    Some people would like to keep you as you are, because they don't want to improve themselves and don't want to feel bad about themselves. I think that is a very real thing. My advice would be to not tell other people about your journey and just do it... just tell other people you know are in the same mindset as you.
     
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