Why both masturbation and porn?

I'm definitely wanting to quit porn as it "intensifies" masturbating more. And pulls me way off into fantasy land and fixes my mind on all kinds of kinks instead of going out there and creating more (good and authentic) sex with real people.

As to masturbating in it's own, I'm still voting on that but will look further into that after the 90 day mark.
Still, the problem is:

1) Still just juggling my own mental pictures around instead of creating and exchanging real sexual energy and connecting with another person.

2) Doing it too much (esp. if it is the main expression of sex) can also lead to the "death grip" ie. only being able to come from that "perfect tight stimulation" of my own hand, and not from a woman (vagina, hand, mouth etc.).


Personally, I wouldn't have a problem masturbating over phone or cam with someone (if it is a REAL connection with a GF or something - not some paid webcam prostitute etc.). I don't see that as "mind-jerking" - it is still a real interaction with real communication and energy exchanged.
BUT if I was doing it a lot and as the main activity (such as in a LTR) then I would be cautious about the death grip, ie. not going too far from "how it would be" with another person.

Anyway, overall I still see it as the most optimal for me if I can quit masturbating all together.
But I might not come down as hard on normal masturbation as I would on PMO, regarding my habits. Because I have seen time and time again how quickly PMO pulls me off track and hurts my ability to connect with girls in general.
But I will be more clear in my mind when I finally make my 90 days mark, I'm sure.

 

For my 90 day challenge I will seek to cut out everything all together. And then see how I feel about it.
But let's see how it goes. I've crashed and burned several times and didn't make it to a full week yet.

 

Well said, Kodec. I totally agree and share that experience.