The flatlines are intense. I am currently on 89 days without porn and I didn't know they were flatlines but I have had periods of intense depression, borderline suicidal thoughts. I had one recently that went for maybe a week and I was crying in bed, couldn't get out of bed, didn't even have a libido. This stuff has been happening more so after the 60 day mark I think and when I emotionally started to change. It can get pretty confusing when people don't understand the nature of porn addiction and withdrawal so its good to have forums like this. Super intense cravings. They come in waves, may last for a week usually. These include; euphoric recall, planning, fantasising, creating inventive ideas/ways to masturbate in my head. Usually this is followed by a period of growth interestingly enough though. Being occupied definitely helps, but if your life has been corroded by this addiction and your desolute, no friends etc. it can be harder.
You said you are doing only no PM- but sex with O. How do you feel after O actually? Do you think you relapse and do you realize any changes in the benefits that you have gained. P.S.: sorry for my english since its not my native language
I don't think sex with orgasm is a relapse. In the beginning, I felt really low 2-3 days after the orgasm but now I feel good. 10 months today, I'm still not out of the flatline but the days without the flatline (feel awesome) makes me want to continue this journey.
Thank you for the reply. After 2 weeks of no PMO I had a sex with O and after it I felt amazing. My mood boosted even on upcoming days as well as my confidence etc. The only thing was I felt exhausted because of the physical energy consumption during sex and slept like for 10-11 hours the day after now I am on my 4 th week I guess I am on a flatline. Dont have urges and I did not get the chaser effects after the sex which I think is a good sign. Just asked the question because of people writing about sex during NoFap and their bad experience afterwards.
Personally, having sex and having a orgasm is okay. It's just delay the progress a little bit (my belief)
@jorg78 amazing success story, i'm starting again nofap, last time i went for almost two month 5 years ago and the withdrawal symptoms were so hard, i was feeling dead everyday i woke up, i got the awful flatline and i got narcolepsy attacks (uncontrolled sleep attacks) at works, it destroyed my career. semen leaking and hell depression and feeling under motivation which was feeling as the time is completely stopped and i was bored as hell and agitated all the time that i could sit still for 5 minutes to watch a show or a film or even listen to music. that period that due to ignorance of the withdrawal symptoms, i thought i getting a psychological disorder. anhedonia of course and there were these moments when i lose the ability to talk or handle stress and i would feel pain through my head and my body like hell made me hitting my head to the wall! i 'm afraid that i have to go into it again now after 5 years of my first trial. how are doing on that?! are your withdrawal was the same or less? when it does get better abit? any fast remedies during that period. always best of luck to your journey.
Hey man, sorry to hear about what you went through. I have/had the same symptoms as you. It's getting better and better now. The best remedies I can give you are sleep when you feel tired, eat healthy and good fats, exercise and socialize (But exercise and socialize is hard when you have no motivation and feel like you want to be alone).
Day 314, I think I'm in a new phase of PAWS/flatline. Extremely tired and not feeling well at all. This is the hardest thing I have ever done.
Hello, I'm using google translate so forgive me if it's wrong. He tenido PIED durante aproximadamente 60-65 días
I've just completed 7 days no pmo which is an achievement for me. Feeling happy about that! Long term goal is 180 days. My tactic is to allow myself to experience the discomfort of loneliness and urges without fighting them or indulging them. Just experience them until they pass. Gym, swim and prayer also helping a lot.
Day 317. Holy shit, what is happening? My mood changed from low motivation to huge motivation. Hope it's the end of the long flatline. Even if it's not, I just low how I feel at the moment. Just hope it lasts
Happy days! Delighted for you. I hope the energy lasts and that you use it for stuff that is good and productive
I read in someone's post that it takes a year to cure oneself fully. I felt that around 130 days. It just depends on the intensity at which you work. Let the grace work for you. Light an oil lamp 2 times a day in your room.