*cough* WW1 *cough* WW2 *cough* Civil war *cough* gulf war *cough* korean war *cough* napoleonic war *cough* war on terror *cough* war of 1812 *cough*......Need I go on? Sure you can cough up some wars involving religion, but not many....
I never said thats what you re doing, and I don't think that, if it came across like that, sorry. I meant that people have been know to say the bible made a mistake in order too do something they want
I haven't read all the posts here but quite a few. I have a few thoughts. First off in disclosure, I am a Christian. But that is not a condemnation on those who are not because I've been the worse type of Christian, a hypocrite. Any comments I make here would be just as condemning of myself so please do not take them as such. I offer my thoughts with love and the offering of my perspective. I am an expert in casual sex. I have had sex with literally hundreds of woman. That is not a brag. Yes I one point in my life it would have been. Now I'm just ashamed. For what I've done to some of them and what I've done to myself. I've done this for the last 12 years as a professed Christian hiding under the rock of "that's not what the bible means" or "well that just my sin" banner. If you want to read more about this, check out my journal. I am a sex addict. I started with porn, I moved to casual sex, cheating, swinging, the whole 9 yards. I BELIEVE with all my being that casual sex is no different then PMO. It's just live porn, my friends. I lived the porn lifestyle. One of you mentioned effort as the difference? I have to put very little effort into sex as well. I'd go to parties that resulting in me having sex with multiple VERY attractive woman in the course of 3-4 hours with no more effort than a invitation. I could still have it today. I've had several "invitations". My balls hurt and I've gone more time then I ever have in my life without sex because I want to break this addiction. But it isn't worth it. You will just trade another addiction for the one you have. I've lost my wife (yes I had a wife through this), my family is broken, and I'm missing the truly important part of life here on this earth. Sexual intimacy needs to include love, commitment, compassion, tenderness and a whole host of other healthy emotions. I had no PIED because I didn't even watch porn for the last decade. Why would I? I had something better, live porn. I received great pleasure from sex, no premature ejaculation, no failure to perform. I'm not here just to get my hard on back or to want to have sex with live woman again. I see many who are and I pray they aren't in a for a whole host of future disappointments. I'm here to break myself of this addiction. Again, this isn't with condemnation. I believe sex can now be something new and honoring and exciting. The crazy part is, this choice might lead me to not having anymore sex. At least not for a long time. First to break my addiction, second because the woman I love does not want to return. But I'd rather have that as much as that scares this addicted mind right now, then go back to the cesspool of a life I've lived. I love this group for their openness and honesty. I'll be as transparent as anyone wishes for the goal of healing for us all.
Ehh, I'm not a Christian, but playing the who's got the bigger body count game is not a winning move when you consider that atheistic communism has a body count around a quarter billion and the crusades and inquisition were largely defensive measures in response to Muslim invasions of Christian lands. However, the causality in the post you quoted is totally backwards. Poverty doesn't cause crime, crime causes poverty.
Casual sex is unhealthy and it's unhealthy independent of religion. The more sexual partners you have, the higher chance of divorce at a later date, among many other bad traits. Religion just helps guiding people on the right way.
and guess who ran the church?, humans, humans exploiting something for their personal gain, people kill eachother over jordans so are jordans like religion now?, no, its just humans being humans.
Casual sex is just prostitution without the monetary transaction. It is sex without feeling a connection with the other person and something done without the intention of taking any sort of responsibility on the person you're having sex with. It has the same effect on your brain as porn, drugs and alcohol.
Why is casual sex bad? As long as there is consent sex does not need to be complicated. We have real needs. Sex is okay. Soul mate sentimentalities does not exist in real life. Only lame ass love stories
I'm not denying that but to say religion had nothing to do with it is wrong. I think it does matter because if know who wrote it we will be able to understand it better. What do you mean by the Bible being good? Do you mean it's well written or that the content is good or something else?
Saying the Bible is good is a bit like saying Jesus is a good teacher. Jesus claimed to be much more than a good teacher, so if it's true what He said, then He is the Son of God. If it's not true, then He is a madman, not a good teacher. But His testimony is not that of a madman... In a similar vain the Bible starts off with "in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth". You can either take the whole book as the Word of God, or you have to disregard it alltogether.
Jesus was the perfect teacher, he also is the son of God. I take the whole book 100% seriously, you just have to use common sense while reading it and be able to piece things together, the books not as complicated as people think, of course there are countless mysteries in it but its not hard figuring out the right things to do. And it is not as contradicting as people think.
Okay. I'm sorry I may have been a bit harsh on you. I just don't think you should assume becasue someone can't believe in the Bible they want to behave immorally. For some, it might be the case but for it could intellectual reasons. There was a period in my life when I became agnostic but it wasn't because I wanted to behave immorally, it was due to somethings in Christian theology and scripture not making sense. I was able to reconcile those things for the most part but it had nothing to do with wanting to behave immorally.