Some words of advice for the many bisexual/bicurious men on this site

I don't know. From where I'm standing it seems like your position is "Do whatever you want that makes you happy, as long as I personally agree with it, and if I don't I'll attack your character and call you names." Being offended doesnt make you right.

Hate to break it to you, but a lot of homosexuals do partake in what literally is hedonistic activity. To say so is not bigoted, it's a statement of statistical fact. Look at the rates of sexually transmitted illnesses in homosexual men versus heterosexuals and homosexual women. This is not to say homosexuals are all deviants, but NOBODY IS SAYING THAT to begin with.

I see you mention Nazism a lot, and you seem to hate it. I guess that means you actually are a Nazi right?

Do you truly not see how ridiculous this reasoning is?

 

That's five times you used the term 'gay' activist. In your later posts you just say activist. Maybe you were less angry?

Yet another sweeping statement.

Indulge in what?

Why mention sodomy again (you mentioned anal sex in a previous post that isn't there anymore). Many gay men do not partake in this sexual act and even if they do it is none of your business. Why do you continue to single out the gay community anyway?

 

Did you actually read what I wrote?
"I would say that sodomy of any kind, gay or straight is a far more dangerous and unhealthy activity."
Apparently not.

 

This is a personal pet peeve of mine to be honest. Sodomy does not just mean anal sex, it means any kind of sex that is being had that is non-procreative.

 

That's quite rude. Yes, of course I did, and if you read what I said you will see that I was questioning why you mentioned anal sex again.

 

Definitions from Oxford Languages
sodomy
/ˈsɒdəmi/

noun

1. anal sexual intercourse.
   
   Similar:
   anal intercourse
   anal sex
   
   buggery
   
   pedication
   
   intercourse per anum
   

 

,,sweeping statement''. Apparently, you don't know what's happening in social media or major news outlets. And this is not just only about LGBTQ comm. Or is this another lie?

 

how did you draw that based on what I posted - in your own words. I think any misuse of sex is unnatural and result of modern living conditions (see the famous mouse utopia experiment) - i think any use of drugs to cope with anxiety is unnatural, and i think the same about any sexual activity.

Here is my guess you grew up in what you see as a 'repressive' religious environment and you are rebelling, rather than being at peace with your upbringing. In your rage at your parents, you see your problem on everyone else. The problem is, maximus19, not everyone had your childhood experiences, or even your reaction. Many devout religious people come from religious households and are happy that way.

This is the only conclusion I can draw after I have repeatedly stated to you the origins of my beliefs on using sex(activity, pornography, internal fantasizing, masturbation - of any kind 'gay' , 'straight' whatever) or alcohol or drugs as a coping mechanism for trauma and anxiety - I have referenced studies about this and well documented books like "The Body Keeps Score" . Yet you keep saying same thing over and over 'toxic religious beliefs'.

How many times to I have to explain this to you?

BTW, my religious (and philosophical and scientific and moral) beliefs about sex do not make me feel bad about sex, they make me see it as a noble energy and life force. One of my favorite books on sexual addiction problems is "Unwanted" and they see your internal fantasies as paths to healing, not something to 'repress' or 'ignore'- they are in fact our subconscious trying to tell us something.

 

What makes you think all humans agree on it? All humans certainly do not. But again who gives you the 'right' to impose this morality? Where is 'respect' in enlightment values ? The original enlightenment values were liberty fraternity, equality. You show no respect for other people's beliefs, so why should we respect yours?
Attempts to carry out the last one has been responsible for more murder and slaughter than 'the nazis' in the 19th and 20th century and has led to the destruction of more art, science, literature and truth than any other thing.

It's not that idea is bad, its that humans are much more complex than your over-simple views on this (and sex for that matter) allow.

 

This is NoFap though and the thread is becoming too politiclal and is far off topic, which as I understand it, is breaking NoFap posting rules. Imo, if this thread is deleted, it will be for good reason.

 

Here you go again, trying to get threads deleted that you don't like because you can't tolerate opposing views.

16 posts here and over half of them trying to get threads deleted.

 

Ohh, I understand, why didn't I realize from the first comment. You're just the typical SJW who tries to enclose the people. I thought of deleting my account for some time because of people like you, well thank you for giving me the final reason. Have a good day!

 

No you said why do I single out gay people, I repeatedly said I do not - i used sodomy as an example.

 

You might want to examine it further - I don 't necessarily belief in 'repressed' memories - or let's say like ghosts claims are more common than reality - but it sounds like there is a possibility here.

I never 'repressed' mine but, I also never processed it, and didn't realize how it affected me - only later in life when I look at my boyhood behavior after, I went into a deep depression.

Reading The Body Keeps Score and Unwanted made me realize that I had conflated sex -love-worth - and also sexualized many needs.

As I have done so, natural desires to fantasize (or binge drinking) have faded.

 

Yes, that is one meaning of the word. The more general meaning is any kind of non-procreative sex, as I previously stated. See the definition taken from Merriam Webster:

"Definition of sodomy
: anal or oral copulation with a member of the same or opposite sex
also : copulation with an animal"

The point is by solely attributing the concept of sodomy to homosexual men you are misunderstanding what Ivan is trying to say.

 

Don't deleted your account, if you do then these people win. Stand your ground.

 

It was he that brought it up though. I'm not misunderstanding anything.

 

No, the op was asking me a question, and I answered. Here is the question the OP asked of me:
Ok, so by your own logic, both heterosexual and gay sex are just as bad as each other in this context?

and my response:
I would say that sodomy of any kind, gay or straight is a far more dangeous and unhealthy activity. but for example a monogamous two gay guys who generally cared for each other vs, for example a bsdm or abusive 'sex' that involved power over a woman (or visa versa, fem dom) would be more unhealthy than the gay example. it's not the only criteria.

You just don't like the answer and are trying to get this thread deleted as you have others. 18 posts at NF, almost all of them trying to silence other people.

Is there any other reason you are here?

 

I refer to my earlier post where you said-
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"Yes, but why do gay activists delete and block information for people who don't want those fantasies or urges."

**"sadly I have to copy this post offline because gay activists will try to get it deleted."
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"I have tried to post before but gay activists keep getting deleted"
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"gay activists here get that info deleted. How dare they try to keep someone suffering from this hell from seeking healing. My guess is they want to drag people down into their own personal hells rather than seek healing."

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"but why do gay activists delete and block information for people who don't want those fantasies or urges."

 

Oh, I see. Yes, it is LGBT activists that try to get SSA discussions deleted. Really, are you disagreeing with this?
Yes, It is LGBT activists who try to suppress information alternative views on sexuality and get certain sexual identity therapies banned and make it even illegal for adults to voluntarily seek the help they want (but, it's ok to have sex organs surgically removed, because, well that's healthy)

really, are you denying this? !

LGBT Activists - not all gay people, btw. Many are open discussion, many are not.