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Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by akrivane, Mar 11, 2018.

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  1. akrivane

    akrivane Fapstronaut

    Feeling lonely, longing for someone to hug me tight just made me relapse.
    For a couple of days, my heart has been so heavy!
    I can not find someone that i feel like gets me. So i push all the others away.
    Is that wrong? I dont want to be in a relationship where I dont feel the other interacting with my inner self.
    And the sad funny part is that all those that I feel a connection to, are guys who are sexually active, who i would around with. But i dont wamt that, because of trying to be a good christian.

    Well, i wont put my relapsing only on my loneliness either. There is a serie I had been watching, and it has a couple of scenes where the sex is really intense. So i guess i should stop watching it.

    But feeling lonely is killing me these days.
     
  2. j_pwc_bat

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    Yes, avoid the 'too sexy' scenes [just fast forward the video]. Perhaps more church involvement would help [meet some attractive man who shares your values]?

    https://hallofquotes.com/wp-content...-a-totally-different-life-via-thinkpoziti.jpg


    Here are 7 free tips:

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    When PMO is not even an option (self.NoFap)
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    3. Google: "The pain of self-discipline [4] is far less than the pain of regret [8]" ..... Find an image you like......... and save it onto your computer or phone.

    4. Treats or dessert (for good behavior). Also, if possible, buy something related to a hobby you really enjoy.

    5. Some guy on line had this great advice: " Never touch your dick……[or female parts for women]."
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    7. Click on the NoFap "Emergency" button and find an image you like (positive influence): http://i.imgur.com/bbWSvJx.jpg
     
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  3. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    Honestly I'm not sure what advice I can really give, I suffer from a similar problem in that I get very lonely and yearn for companionship but at the same time am very closed off and unresponsive to it when it happens/the possibility of it happens. All I can say is that you're among friends here, we're here to help you improve and get better, dont ever give up and I promise you at the very least you will start to feel better in time.
     
  4. Axel Clint

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    Don't worry about all those intense sex scenes just ignore it as some kind of boring scene. If you don't like it just fast forward it. Don't think about those things. Thinking about them will attract you more towards them. I have also been in a similar situation. I have some friends. They drink alcohol and smoke cigarette a lot. They usually advice me why drinking and smoking is good. When i refuse them (i usually don't like these sort of things) they used to say that i am still a kid and i haven't tried anything new in life. Sometimes i feel isolated as i am the only one in my group who don't drink and smoke. But i just laugh and ignore them because deep down i know there are many good things to try rather than damaging your lungs and kidney. And everyone has different interests in life.

    Now coming to your problem regarding loneliness. I know it can be a major problem sometimes but it can be dealt with even if no one is around. I can suggest you trying some of these things below if you are feeling lonely:

    1. Reading a book. Reading is actually a nice habit. You can read books depending on subject you like such as Fiction, Non-fiction,Horror,Mystery etc. I usually read books from varying topics such as The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho (A good story and personal development book), Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens. Sometimes i even read story books meant for kids. I know people may laugh at me but i do it for my own happiness not for them.

    2.Do Painting or Sketching. I am not a professional artist. But sometimes i try to learn.

    3.Reading articles on web. Not just News articles. Articles related to anything such as TV programs, PC games, Movies, Daily hacks etc.

    4.Watching Movies of different genera.

    5.Cooking

    Thinking more about the emptiness around you, usually starts making you depressed. Just keep on doing something creative in your life.
     
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  5. elevate

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    So what are you doing to meet people? What kind of people do you want to meet and where do you find those people?

    With your feeling of loneliness, you can either use that towards pmo and other solitary activities which leads to more loneliness or you can use it as motivation towards meeting people on a more frequent basis.

    The more you neglect it the worst it gets.

    It's like a person that hates their job, so they drink alcohol in order to withstand the job without trying to get a new job.
     
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    I feel you, i am going through a similar situation. But yes we all are here for you and for the whole community. We can help each other. Let's try not to forget the target.. It is hard.. But things shall change, that tightness in chest is painful.. Or those empty gaps as well. But i believe as they came through this, they can go away through some solution
     
  7. akrivane

    akrivane Fapstronaut

    Thank you very much j_pwc_bat, I have loved some of your pictures, and thank you for all those resources you have given me.
    Courage on your road as well
     
  8. akrivane

    akrivane Fapstronaut

    :) Thank you, it warms my heart to know that there are other people that are like me. I hope we are able to fight this thing of pushing people away.
     
  9. akrivane

    akrivane Fapstronaut

    Thanks Axel,
    That process of thinking that it is boring or you do not like it, happens when you have not started drinking for example. I also dont like to drink, and people ask me why or tell me to try, but I am not interested at all. But for PMO, since i have already tried, it becomes more complicated.

    On the other hand, I agree with you on having different activities, occupying yourself, I usually read as well, but I think mixing it with other activities is good, so that you dont get bored of that one activity and start thinking about whatever...
     
  10. akrivane

    akrivane Fapstronaut

    :emoji_slight_smile: sarcastically good! yes, i need to make a plan on how to meet new people and get together with them on a regular basis! The thing is it ends up being just words and we dont implement them. But i guess it shows how you are committed to stop pmo. Thanks
     
  11. akrivane

    akrivane Fapstronaut

    Thanks for sharing that you were going through a similar situation.
     
  12. Somnambulist

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    Some of my biggest triggers are along the same lines: seeing happy couples, dreaming of being with someone, or just the pain of not having physical contact.

    It's not wrong to feel these things. Trying to ignore it just causes stress. A better solution, I've found, is to accept that the feeling is there and just notice the physical symptoms. If it's reduced to physical discomfort, it becomes much easier to deal with.
     
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  13. I should really go to sleep now, but I feel like I have to comment to at least one post before going to bed. I cant give a lot of tips really about your specific situation, although I know exactly what you are talking about. A lot of people have it the same way. Just remember that you can always talk to someone. Online is better than nothing but real life persons are even better. Find a therapist, a priest or a group where you can share your problems. Find a hobby where you can socialize and make friends. A lot of people are good listeners.

    Im not sure if you are a guy or a girl but dont let religion get in the way of you being yourself. God dont want that. I used to be a Christian before but I realized that the bible has been edited more than 50 times. There is basically nothing of the old wisdom left.
     
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  14. akrivane

    akrivane Fapstronaut

    hi Somnambulist, how do you deal with it when the pain is an ache in your heart? I mean how do you define those physical symptoms?
     
  15. akrivane

    akrivane Fapstronaut

    hi there,
    you are right, in person conversations are better than online, but also online is better than nothing. especially when you don't have anyone you can tell about your relapse issues. I wonder if it is better to talk to someone who have experienced it, or if even talking about it to another person like a priest or an older sibling can be better?!

    I am a christian but i am interested in knowing what you mean there. That s true that the bible has been changed, but I always assumed that the changes are only the removal of some chapters, but not the editing of the text. If you are not a christian anymore, how do you pray and how do you set your boundaries?

    thanks for your message before you went to sleep. :)
     
  16. Somnambulist

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    Usually loneliness manifests itself as heaviness in the chest. It feels like weight, as if my heart suddenly weighed 15 or so pounds. Pain responses set in, usually with shortness of breath and weakness in the limbs. If it happens quickly enough, I can feel the surge as my brain shifts chemical production. Regardless, I can often feel a pressure in my forehead.

    Dealing with it is like with any pain. Breathing exercises help a lot.

    For me, I'm still a Christian despite acknowledging the editing of scripture. Rather than give up my faith, it was simply that I needed a change of perspective. I view the Bible as more of an anthropological source. If you want an idea of how it was changed, you can research the JEPD theory. I would be willing to discuss how my faith has changed as I did more research if you're interested.
     
  17. akrivane

    akrivane Fapstronaut

    Oh I understand now! For me it just feels like an emptiness, so no tangible physical reactions I can act on!

    Please do share, I am interested in knowing your new perspective now.
     
  18. Mike1991

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    First, I would like to send you a hug!

    As far as you feeling lonely, I understand where you are coming from. For the most part, I have been more of a reserved character myself, but it would always be nice to have someone to be a friend. Lately I have been feeling miserable, mainly dealing with stress and thinking about a close friend of mine more than I would like to.

    The best thing that I can say is that you should work on yourself. There is no point in trying to look for a companion, since it will happen on its own.

    That is something I hope to work on myself through NoFap. Instead of trying to please others, I might as well try and please myself. If I make myself a better person, it will allow me to help others better.

    I know I waste a lot of time and energy pursuing PMO, as well as trying to find a companion. I feel there may be better use on my part trying to focus on myself first, and from there, things will work out on their own. Whatever is meant to be is meant to be as far as I can tell you.

    Hope I said something useful. :D
     
  19. Orion_35

    Orion_35 Fapstronaut

    I'm going to say that in my opinion its not wrong, but large part of it is going to sound kind of sexist: I think that masturbation is more natural to women since my 3 y/o niece masturbate, probably without realizing what she is doing and no one guided her to do that AFAIK so who am I to tell her or you its wrong.

    Also ask yourself : is religion natural? I don't ask that to be disrespectful, I just don't believe in religion that avoids these kind of questions. Also if you want to get religious, as someone who was made to study the ten commandments I can tell you that there is nothing there against female masturbation : only male Masturbation because it wastes the man's seed.

    That aside, if you really find benefit in avoiding masturbation as I do , I think you can just ask for someone to hang out with you online or IRL, there is no shame in that, there are so many lonely people out there.
     
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  20. Somnambulist

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    For the record, this is actually a misinterpretation of the story of Onan. His sin wasn't wasting his seed, his sin was refusing to father a son with his brothers widow. Now, this doesn't make much sense unless you know something about the culture of the time. As his brother had no children of his own, Onan was responsible for the death of his brothers bloodline, tantamount to killing his brother himself.

    The Bible doesn't say anything about masturbation at all. In fact, we can see masturbation throughout nature, which leads me to believe that it, in and of itself isn't sinful. Like anything, it's only a problem in excess. Porn, on the other hand, I believe is. It's an industry that exists to exploit and manipulate men and women alike. It traps people in addiction and serves to warp and control perceptions, turning a healthy interest in sex into something base and crude.
     
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