1. Welcome to NoFap! We have disabled new forum accounts from being registered for the time being. In the meantime, you can join our weekly accountability groups.
    Dismiss Notice

Quitting porn or alcohol first?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by magic05, Mar 14, 2020.

  1. magic05

    magic05 Fapstronaut

    188
    177
    43
    I started nofap in the beginning of January and failed numerous times. Couldn't keep away from porn for longer than 7 days max.

    Now I'm also strongly vulnerable to alcohol addiction since years. I'm not a full-blown alcoholic yet, but close to it. If I don't set drastic changes I'll definitely be an alcoholic in 1-2 years. Been suffering from both PMO and alcohol addiction since 15 years approx.

    Since nofap in January all my focus was on porn. It didn't really work out and since 14 days I changed my approach:

    I stopped caring about PMO and nofap. I still tried to keep away from it, but if I failed I didn't care much about it. I have to admit I watched a shitload of porn since 14 days.

    Instead now my entire focus is on alcohol. The last previous 14 days I only drank alcohol on 2 days. Both binges, but still it's an amount of sobriety that I didn't achieve for many many months. It's a small success.

    Those 12 days of sobriety gave me an energy boost and sense of clarity that I never achived with nofap. I know watching porn is very bad for me, but I feel like alcohol is 10x times worse. And if I don't watch porn I automatically drink.

    So I'm wondering. Is this the right approach? Putting all of my focus and energy on alcohol and not care too much about PMO?

    I tried quitting those 2 addictions simultaneously, but I simply can't do it. My goal now is to achieve longer and longer times of sobriety. I managed 7 days. Then binged. Then again 7 days. Now my goal is 14 days. And so on. Until I reach 3 full months without alcohol.

    I feel like only then I'm capable of quitting porn too. But I don't know if it's the right approach. I watch a lot of porn now after all. What do you think? Quitting simultaneously or only one after another?
     
    Deleted Account likes this.
  2. Fenix Rising

    Fenix Rising Fapstronaut

    1,955
    3,836
    143
    Just my humble opinion. Get rid of alcohol first. This shit can literally kill you. Visiting real life AA meetings or some similar support group would be very helpful. I'd try getting rid of PMO addiction after staying away from alcohol for a year or so. The reasoning behind this approach is that once you abstain from one addiction other will most likely worsen because your brain will try to get boost of dopamine elsewhere. If you give up PMO first, you have high chances of becoming full blown alcoholic. That's why it's much better to address your drinking first. Try to get physically active as much as possible (within reason) after giving up alcohol. This way you'll get your endorphins from aerobic exercise. I'd suggest watching all of Tim Johnson's videos (from oldest to newest) to get an idea what you have to do to break free. Best of luck.
     
    juniorsworld and Deleted Account like this.
  3. hollyman

    hollyman Fapstronaut

    1,958
    4,387
    143
    imo quit both of it.

    it will be harsh month but
    the alcohol addiction will fade faster than porn addiction

    when u do porn addiction ur brain will try to find and exchange for the dopamine, and so your alcohol addiction will worse,

    with alcohol worsen u will feel stressed out and will come back to porn again . and that vicious cycle will go again
     
  4. ThomasTheCat

    ThomasTheCat Fapstronaut

    125
    100
    43
    Quit alcohol and then PMO. But, I myself have quit weed, nicotine, PMO and alcohol in the same time. I drink sometimes but casually.
     
    juniorsworld likes this.
  5. Gorgewalker

    Gorgewalker Fapstronaut

    Echoing the others, alcohol then PMO. PMO can kill you figuratively, but alcohol can kill you literally.

    I would always say get rid of any substance abuse issues before porn. Porn might have a mental stranglehold over you but drugs will also have a physical one.
     
    Fenix Rising likes this.
  6. Rev2.0

    Rev2.0 Fapstronaut

    541
    777
    93
    I would say 8 out of 10 times I PMO'd (which was way too many times for far too many years), I had been drinking first. I have drastically cut back on drinking the past 3 years to the point where a couple of beers (or one tall boy) puts a decent buzz on but at that point I also realize I am MUCH more tempted to fall back into PMO. Or at minimum, indulging in a "peek session" with P or Psubs.

    All of which is me saying I think it will be easier for you to get your P addiction under control if you get clean of alcohol first, whereas I'm not so certain the opposite would be true.
     
    juniorsworld likes this.
  7. juniorsworld

    juniorsworld Fapstronaut

    8
    16
    3
    Also, I believe that if OP is able to get rid of alcohol addiction then I believe it would be easier to get rid of PMO so there's hope.
     
    Fenix Rising likes this.
  8. Despicable me

    Despicable me Fapstronaut

    577
    519
    93
    Yes, alcohol first. I have the same problem. And if I check my logbook, all great strikes have ended due to hangover. Then Im most vulnerable (and horny).
    Alcohol is the precursor. If I have tried to quit smoking, then I smoke when Im drunk. If I try to quit porn, i fap when Im hungover. If I go to gym, I dont, because I either drink beer, or have a hangover. If I try to clean my diet,........ You see what I mean. Deffinetly alcohol first! That will allready reduce your porn consumption.
     
    Fenix Rising likes this.
  9. gordie

    gordie Fapstronaut

    199
    868
    93
    Alcohol screws your mind up so bad, I find it necessary to quit with just about any addiction. To quit smoking I had to quit drinking, to quit porn I had to cut back on alcohol (and will probably quit drinking at the end of this "discipline week" I've made for myself.

    Drinking ties so many knots up if you have an addictive personality. Especially because the drug itself lowers inhibitions and the hangovers encourage a desperation to feel better.
     
    Fenix Rising and Despicable me like this.
  10. OnceMoreIntoTheFray

    OnceMoreIntoTheFray Fapstronaut

    463
    1,529
    123
    I'm quitting both! They both lead me down the same path.. it sucks. The work off each other
     
  11. magic05

    magic05 Fapstronaut

    188
    177
    43
    Thanks for all your advice.

    The thing is: I have a bad conscience. Since I switched my focus from nofap to alcohol, I watch more porn and masturbate than ever. And coronavirus is making it even worse, because I'm at home almost all day.

    Falling back to porn addiction makes me impotent, lethargic and depressed.

    But as you said, I feel like alcohol will physically kill me sooner or later if I don't quit now.

    I can't quit both addictions at the same time, because the last 2 months have shown me that nofap automatically leads to an increase in drinking.

    But if I use porn as a coping mechanism for stress and loneliness, I can stay sober. Take the porn away and I will start drinking daily.

    I think I have no choice than to focus only on alcohol for the upcoming months and not care about nofap and porn anymore, as evil as it certainly may be.
     

Share This Page