Do we plan our lives before we are born

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  1. Virus25

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    The theory that we plan our lives was something I had never heard of before 2011.

    Up until that point, I could not have even imagined such a thing. Even after hearing about it 3 years ago, it took me quite a long time to let this concept into my paradigm.

    How I stumbled upon it wasn't even through my avid research of the afterlife and reincarnation. It came to me through a vision I had.

    Before the vision, I believed in reincarnation. The idea of it had always fascinated me and I felt strongly that I did have past lives; I just didn't know what those lives entailed.

    After three years of intense research and listening to many people from all different backgrounds and beliefs speak about it from all around the world, I knew it was something that needed to be shared and discussed.



    The Cycle of Reincarnation and The Pre-Birth Plan

    "Many people feel that reincarnation can't exist because they don't remember their past and my answer to the world is we do remember.

    We don't have the details but we have certain key hints as to who we are.

    The type of music we like, the people we are most attracted to, the types of food we like, the clothing we wear, certain periods of history that we identify with.

    These are indications this is where we have been before and so our present incarnation or our present lifetime is a composite of all the fruits of what we were before."

    Carey Williams

    Co-Author: Reincarnation: A New Horizon

    (Ancient Mysteries – Reincarnation Documentary Hosted by Leonard Nimoy)

    Through my research, the cycle of life to death to re-birth has been pretty much the same from all the sources I studied and let me tell you, there were many.

    It all starts with the Pre-Birth Plan...

    You establish this plan with a council. Some people call this council the elders or the wise ones. Pretty much, they are very old beings who know their stuff so to speak.

    You meet with them along with your spirit guides. You discuss the life ahead of you and are given the choice of a few different lives to pick from in the current time period you are incarnating into.

    To give you an example:

    I was given the choice of being an artist or a Samurai in Japan.

    You choose everything, including your parents. Once your choices have been given to you and you pick one, the tedious task starts of planning all the things you wish to experience in the upcoming life.

    Experience isn't the only thing we seek; we have goals to meet and challenges to overcome. Some wish to learn patience or overcome jealousy.

    Many people have debated this theory but you also choose to clear up karmas. To me, clearing up karmas simply means creating a balance.

    There are a few other things like healing, contrast and healing false beliefs. When the life plan is being created, our guides are there with us creating what Robert Schwartz describes through his work as a flow chart.

    A flow chart is the plan but with 'free will' incorporated into it. He goes into great detail about the flow chart in an interview he did with Afterlife TV which you can view here.

    Our guides also create synchronicities in our lives to trigger certain things in us and guide us on the best path to help us master our goals.

    After the plan is in place, we are born and forget the plan and who we truly are.

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    Why Do We Forget?

    "You close your eyes to the past in order to reopen them to a new existence. You can get more expansion by forgetting"

    Teal Swan

    Spiritual Catalyst

    "It wouldn't be a test if you knew the answers"

    Dolores Cannon

    Forgetting is an integral part of the cycle.

    It's how we truly get to know ourselves and fully live the current life we are living. Dolores and Teal give really great, simple explanations of it. We're living in the time of remembering and many of us are remembering who we are and why we came to Earth at this time.

    Those who haven't fully awakened to their abilities but wish to have more insight on who they are and why they are here seek out mediums or people who are in tune with higher frequencies and can connect to help them access that kind of information.


    How Does the Pre-Birth Plan Affect the Laws of Attraction and Manifestation?

    The Pre-Birth Plan is set in place but free will gives us the ability to create any reality we choose to live in.

    With that being said, there are certain things we are meant to experience and because of that, I believe some things are out of our control.

    For example:

    • If you are meant to experience a certain illness or disease, you will manifest that illness.

    • If you are meant to experience a negative relationship, you will attract that negative person into your life.
    I guess you could consider that to be the Law of Attraction or Manifestation but because it's not something you are fully conscious of because you planned it before you were born, it's hard to call it that.

    Lately, I've seen some people get confused because they know about the Laws of Attraction, how to manifest positive things and are on a high vibration but something negative comes into their life and they're suddenly thrown off balance because they felt they were doing everything right so they couldn't understand how they could attract something negative.

    When that happens, I'm led to believe that that is the Pre-Birth Plan kicking in.

    There's a lesson to be learned, an experience to be had for growth, healing or balance or in some cases you have strayed pretty far away from your Pre-Birth Plan and things in your life begin to fall apart.


    Are Past Lives Relevant To This Life?

    On occasion, healing needs to take place from things that occurred in past lives.

    Other than that, wanting to know about past lives just from sheer curiosity might not be a good idea for many reasons.

    "Meher Baba is fairly, fairly clear and I'm afraid maybe for many people's taste, a bit frighteningly clear on this.

    There is a wall between the consciousness of the present life and previous lifetime stored records. And he said actually it's for a pretty good reason because the variety and also the strength of those previous lifetime recordings is so varied, so complex and in many cases oppositional.

    This lifetime is way over here and that lifetime is way over there and if all of a sudden we break through the protective wall and these things come out you know.

    He said this can be or would be - if the individual has not done it - one of the most upsetting things that could possibly occur to him and in the usual human state of emotional being the individual is just not strong enough to encompass and to be able to handle and digest and go beyond this tremendously varied functions.

    So Baba simply says don't tamper too much with the protective wall. He was talking primarily with people who were just for their own curiosity trying to recall previous lifetimes."
    Don E. Stevens

    Disciple of Meher Baba

    Knowing about past lives can seriously mess with you mentally and emotionally.

    I know this because I have remembered many of my previous incarnations and asked about them in readings I've had with a medium I know and love.

    Although I personally find them fascinating and look upon them with no judgments; not everyone may be able to handle knowing about all the roles we play here on Earth.

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    Playing Roles

    We come into each incarnation playing a role.

    The role is chosen with the help of our guides and council before we are born. We take turns playing different roles. In one life you will choose to be murdered and in another you will volunteer to be the murderer. The list of switching roles is vast and complex.

    This information is really hard for some people to take in. It took me awhile to really process it all but in the end, it all made sense.

    There's a part in Kung Fu Panda that I always think of when I think about good versus bad.

    Master Shifu runs up to Master Oogway and says to him that it's very bad news.

    Master Oogway smiles and says,

    "There is just news. No good or bad."

    From what I've found through my research and what I truly believe in my heart is that negative is an illusion.

    Negative and positive are both construction material. Negative is an evolutionary catalyst.

    We come to Earth for many reasons but a big one is soul growth.

    Soul growth on the other side is very slow because it is paradise. Also, because we are able to forget who we are, we can learn things on a deeper level and expand even more from it.

    Let's say you want to know love. What better way to know love than to lose it or become separated from it, not even knowing that all of our very existence is love.

    After I heard the theory that we play roles was presented to me, I no longer hated a single person on this planet nor did I fear anything. Because we live in a world of duality, we must have "negative."

    The negative is what makes this world. If we didn't have the villains, none of this would be possible.

    In every single one of those villains (oppressors, abusers, etc.) is a beautiful soul living a human experience that was all planned with soul growth in mind.


    Why is the Theory of Planning Our Lives Important?

    We are living in a very interesting time where many truths that were once hidden are now coming to light

    I'm not saying that the theory of planning our lives is true but rather a new perspective on an old story. There are many stories of the human species origins and why we are here but after extensive research and hearing all the stories, this is the one that truly resonates with me.

    That, and I've remembered who I am with the help of my spirit guides.

    I wrote an article about how to connect with your own spirit guides which you can read here.

    At this time, I feel it is very important to find out what is truly going on in our world and why we are here. All perspectives should be taken into consideration and anyone is free to believe what they feel resonates with them.

    I'm not here to change beliefs. I'm sharing this theory because this theory helped me. I forgave the negative of this world and felt gratitude for it because it all helped me to grow.

    Whether or not this theory is true, that is still a positive thing and perhaps others could take something positive from it like I did.


    Where to Learn More About this Theory

    I love learning and finding as many sources as I can on subjects that interest me. Below are a few examples of some of the work I've studied.

    Some people prefer books while others prefer videos so I've listed both:

     
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  3. AtomicTango

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  4. This is really an interesting topic, I will be reading it later.

    The saddest part i've learnt about us ( Humans ) is that we are nothing more than Homosapiens - We are Animals, It's really sad.

    There is no Law no Order, All of this you see today is man-made, every specie in the animal kingdom had a powerful tool, some had Claws, Some had Super Jaws, Some had Speed, Our only Powerfull tool is our Brains, Sadlly other human's learnt this quickly and they started weaking others thus creating Entertainment stuff such as Porn to Weaken our abilities.

    I'm afraid that there is no Afterlife, No Heaven, No Reincarnation... Only an Endless Oblivions, When we die - we will die just like all creatures. This might be the true truth - But it's better to choose a lighter lie than the true truth.

    That's how we are, Always afraid of the unknown, just like all creatures.
     
  5. mygeneral

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    Thanks for starting this interesting thread. Planning our lives before mortal birth is a belief in the Christ-based religion I was raised with. Dreams, visions, visitations, I believe some of the greatest knowledge we'll encounter in this life comes like it did for you...dreams, visions, visitations, etc. Keep seeking. More will open.
     
  6. Sinbad

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    When we consider all of life as 1 body consisting of countless living beings, much like the cells in a human body, the concept of reincarnation becomes easier to understand.

    Everything we do to harm or benefit our surroundings effects the whole. We are and share with all of life this 1 soul that forever continues.

    We are more than that, friend. Look at reincarnation from an evolutionary perspective. From stones to plants, from plants to animals, from animals to humans, our conscious awareness grows forevermore.
     
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  7. Blessedby TheMostHigh

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    I’m not opposed to this idea, and I think choosing your parents is already enough to predetermine your life(if that’s what happens). The concept of free will throws a big hole in the idea that everything in your life is destiny. Not only does your own free will come into play, but most importantly other people’s free will. If someone uses their free to drop a nuke and destroy the planet, are you going to argue that you had already chosen to experience this? Say you were a 1 day old baby when the earth was destroyed by a nuke.. what would the point of that incarnation be?
     
  8. FirefromAbove

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    Oh shit. This is a lot of text, I will read it later and give an informed response!
     
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  9. SickSicko

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    This shit is like super disturbing to me...

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  10. Only if you are afraid of the death, it really exist, because we have a bad conception of it in our society. For us in this age death is a bad thing, because our world is beautiful and we meet a lot of beautiful people and we are afraid to lose them and we don't understand what is the sense of the life. But this world for someone else is a place were you make experience, work on yourself, work forbhelp others ecc..and death is the liberation for another world. Think to Socrates that accepted his dead without fear. There is a nice paint of Socrates that face his death with courage, while Everyone, even the guy that give him the poison is sad and desperated and his death was an injustice and no one want him to die, he faced it with courage because he know that he know nothing, so he don't know what happend next, materialism instead pretend to know that there is nothing, but they seem it for say it as a fact?

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    Plato apology-critone-fedone can help you a lot if you want to start to know. Why are you scared of something you never seen? Our fear is induced by our modern world scientists that created a materialistic empire were you are a mere piece of meat that just have to reproduce and someone will replace you, is an ideology. But this science you see today come directly from the Christian Medieval science, Copernico, Newton, Giordano Bruno, Galileo, they were all christians and they founded our modern science, also a lot of Islamic helped a lot with science and philosophy (with preserving the books of plato and aristotle also). I don't think any of these genius were atheist materialists, but they give the base for our ugly science without spirit,despite that was not their intentions.

    Maybe you will be scared to know were you Phisical body goes. don't worry about it, is part of this world, and it will return to dust anyway. You have to use your body as a tool, but if you are inside that materialistic matrix you will se empirism as the only possible reality, despite the first thing they use for understand reality (the thinking) is not material!!! Care of your body yes, but also care of your spirit and of your soul, isn't so important what happen next, if you will go to heaven, to devacian, instantly reincarnate, ecc
    Beraid of the death can just block your forces and you will be easly used.

    Anyway if homo sapiend sapiens (not homo sapiens) was just an animal, he wouldn't know about things around him, he would just act ike an animal and use instinct for survive and reproduce, and he will never ask or investigate about the universe and the world arround him
     
  11. TheWigglesSentToSpace

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    Why would anyone plan to be born a Jew in 1930 and spend their early teenage years in Auschwitz watching their family be murdered?
     
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  12. i remember personally how i left my body in past life.... and i believe in reincarnation so to speak...


    my idea is like
    what you achieve in past life
    programs your current life or birth
    and
    your current birth will program your next birth

    it can be talents, illnesses or your good deeds
    they will pay off to you as a good or bad life experience
    i just realized i need to be careful in every moment of my life and decide and make decisions wisely...

    if im not achieved good karmas enough
    at least don't generate negative ones at least...!
     
  13. because of deeds in a past birth or something that you are forced to experience by universal judge court...
     
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  14. SickSicko

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    The what?
     
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    corrected now.
     
  16. HelperX

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    What the fuck is this bullshit?
    People choose to be murdered or be the murderers? Abusers and villains having beautiful souls? Planning before birth? I didn't fucking choose to get fucked up thoughts from porn.

    You've been reading too much bullshit, making excuses for evil pieces of trash, saying idiocy like planning before birth when you are just placed out of nowhere in a fucked up world.

    The human brain can believe anything for fucks sake and that's what I don't like.
     
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  17. Quezatolah

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    Reincarnation is a lie made to have you believe this life is all there is, resurrection is real but reincarnation is not.

    Btw, spirit guides are demonic, you're being fooled @Virus25
    If you don't believe me, next time you're communicating with your spirit guides, just say "Jesus" or "Christ" and see what happens.
     
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  18. god does not play dice...
     
  19. im personally not a materialist
    i cant believe everything we are experiencing is from physical body and cells or what ever,
    spirit or consciousness exists!
    i wont believe it until i had several out of body experience...
    and we are not only blood flesh beings...