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Is it really that hard for men ?

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Mr.Tony, Feb 7, 2023.

  1. Disclaimer: This video might hurt your feeling, watch it with caution.




    It hurt me when I saw this poor man walking straigh to Jordan Peterson asking for help, I've felt it - It's really hard. I hope God will help him and show him the right path ( May God be with him from my deepest heart. )

    That's another reason why I love Jordan Peterson as a helpful person.

    Is it really extremely hard for men living in the west ?

    I don't live in the west, is it really that complicated ? Even though I try to understand it, but I'm not living out there, so I can't get it. I hope someone's explain.

    May God be with every poor broken soul.

    Thanks for Reading.
     
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  2. LostSon41

    LostSon41 Fapstronaut

    I see many successful men in public all the time. Big and attractive handsome men who are followed by women wherever they go. But it's really a small percentage of men who live like this. For young men I already know there's millions who do not, they live pretty secluded. At my 2000 kid high school, with roughly 1000 boys, I'd say only 200-300 attend any sort of parties at all. Everybody else spends the weekends alone.
     
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  3. fredisthebes

    fredisthebes Fapstronaut

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    I dont really have anything to compare it to. But it is hard.
    No doubt men in more 'traditional' countries have their own challenges too. And i dare say being a woman is not a walk in the park. Especially an unattractive one.
    Men certainly 'rule the world', in the sense that top positions in govenment, business etc are massively dominated by men. But women massively dominate middle management, HR and recruitment, making it very hard for young men and boys to even be given a chance at the start of their careers. If you end up in a 'feminine' profession, or an office that is mainly women, you will have no chance.
     
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  4. skybrowser

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    I agree with some of the above comments that men overall rule the world and that successful men exist. However I would say it's mostly older men, late 30s and upwards. With gen-z there are a lot of men struggling, right now in the UK women in their 20s earn more than men in the same age range. A lot of gen-z men have the missing guidance or principles as the host in the video stated, this could partly be attributed to growing fatherlessness in the western world. Clearly we are all here because of porn so add that as a distraction to an already misguided young man among many other distractions and you can begin to see a problem.
     
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  5. I see, I guess life in the West is pretty hard too. Our Life in the East - Traditional Countries is really different, the only problem for the men here is the lack of Wealth, once it's solved - a Man here will live Heaven on Earth, believe me.
     
  6. AbTheAb

    AbTheAb Fapstronaut

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    What makes this video particularly hard to watch is knowing that Peterson is one of them. A false messiah promoted by the same ones who caused that young man's problems. And instead of someone like Peterson exactly breaking down things for young men he intentionally misleads them to gain money and fame and to make sure they remain docile, obedient and complacent.

    Peterson early on covered up for the Holodomor, promoted psychopath and war criminal Netanyahu and lately even promoting war propaganda. His shady connections go as far back as 2013 BTW.

    How terrible it is to see that young man expecting "salvation" from a grifter and a shill. Not knowing who his true enemy is.
     
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  7. Why you think Peterson is a bad influencer ? Any Proofs of him misguiding them ? And If not him, who could've helped young men ?
     
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  8. AbTheAb

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    You say: "If it wasn't him who could've helped young men?"
    Exactly! Exactly my brother, this is the point!

    To understand this, you must understand the concept of false opposition. It is an age old concept.
    If you are a malevolent king, a tyrant or some sort of an oligarch and you see opposition brewing in the background what would you do?
    Suppress it with force? Kill or imprison all the opposition? That would only make the opposition stronger. Why use force when you can use cunning?

    The best way to suppress the opposition is to lead it, this way you can direct it to harmless goals to the oligarchy. This is about damage control so that you do not have to use force. Or only use it for the very few stubborn ones.

    In many dictatorships and advanced "democracies", you will find an "opposition" party or group of people, those people would be in reality ineffective and work with the system. Their goal is to absorb any genuine dissent, stall it, waste its energies in useless actions, frustrate the people etc.. Examples of such are too many and to better understand them you must look at your own surroundings and where you live. I am not sure if my guess is correct but I think you are from Morocco? If that so, just try to think if you have an "opposition party" there. Any real opposition would be in prison or killed. Any opposition which is usually always shouting is on the payroll of the Makhzen.

    Back to Peterson. What proofs?
    1-No one will ever gain such fame unless he is trusted to not rock the boat. this may seem far fetched to you now but maybe in time you would come to that realization. (His meteoric rise to fame, by Youtube algorithms controlled by Sergey Brin and Larry Page who hosted Shimon Peres are dubious)
    2-He worked for the Rockefellers or such figures early on.
    3-Look up who his late wife was, carefully I mean. With such people there is always a similar connection. I cannot say more
    4-He does not provide the full truth about Solzhenitsyn, when asked about it as I already linked in the last post. He evaded the question, he knows but he deliberately lies. He was asked other questions which I cannot mention here and then again he defended his masters.
    5-What did he do in 2021? Which side this man who studied communism and tyranny in his life do in 2021? Why did he attack the truckers in Canada? Why did he flip sides later? I can say no more.
    6-Did you watch his interview with Netanyahu and his later "talks" promoting his propaganda?

    Why do they hire him?
    To prevent any genuine person from ever taking that position and mostly to suppress and control any opposition from the young and frustrated white male demographics. As long as they watch Peterson they are on the safe side and not exploring and living to their potential to understand why things the way they are.
     
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  9. Mhm... I'm impressed you seem to know a lot about Morocco, Where you from ? Where did you gather such information ?

    About Peterson, I think you're right - It could be. But How about Andrew Tate, I guess he's gone too far in the eyes of the Elites, don't you think ?
     
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  10. AbTheAb

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    I try as much as possible to call them parasites, elites give them too much credit. They are truly inferior in many aspects but they are the parasites in control.

    Andrew Tate's father was CIA. Surprisingly enough Peterson's daughter "Mikhaila" went out with him. Small world!

    I wouldn't care much to be honest about those fake celebrities, they are all fake and manufactured. You never know if someone was working with them all along from the start and playing a role, or if they promoted him or her because it serves the narrative or they recruit them later on, or if they take them off the map for whatever reason. The battleground is your mind and it's important to control the information you get and how you process it. As a general rule you should be highly suspicious of anyone who is famous or has power, not anyone is allowed in the club.

    Sometimes they might go as far as replacing someone with a double if they need to. What happened to Kanye? Why is someone who misses legs day (Harley Pasternak), associated with army research and a foreign country secret service is the personal trainer of so many "celeberties".

    Let's just keep it as: I am a curious cat from the land of free cats :D
     
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  11. Alright I got your point, haha - I can give you that.

    Andrew Tate described the Western Society as a Failed Society, and the only way to break out of the Matrix is through, You know Only Fans Business! - According to his Hustler University; - He says that University is a waste of time and that Hustler University is all you need to Succeed and get Rich, what do you think about that ?
     
  12. AbTheAb

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    Yes and no, his "wisdom" or words don't mean much really. A lot of those fake figures say some truths but there is always poison in between. They are placed as false messiahs, prophets and heroes for the masses who are being squeezed more and more everyday to worship.

    As true spirituality has been extinguished, and communities and economies being destroyed; there is more and more need and demand for someone to tell you that Yes! You can make it! Nothing is wrong with the world! It's your fault that you aren't filthy rich! It's your fault that you are not a millionaire! There are no ruling oligarchy or injustice in the world! There are no small privileged group of people. You just need to fix yourself which must be broken if you are not rich! Did I say how much of this is your fault! Just buy my book/seminar/online course/etc.. and you will become rich etc...! (EDIT: I am being overly sarcastic of course, but if you listen to enough gurus like Peterson you will notice how they all put all the blame on the people they are supposed to be helping)

    It's mostly about focusing on the self and disregarding action about the community and society as if they did not exist.

    The question is never University or hustling etc.. It's more like: What's YOUR plan?
    If you are after money, it's all about supply and demand, but this is complicated in reality, what is your personal situation? For someone the better choice will be University, for another it might be a waste of time.

    You just need to think about your own personal situation, what you are good at, and how can you position yourself to be in the best place where your skills are special. All over the world the middle class is being squashed and jobs being taken over by technology which puts pressure on the remining ones. So it's not easy. But all I can be certain of is that those gurus won't help much, most of them are fake charlatans. Motivation is good but don't take them too seriously. It's business for them and they don't care if all who read their books end up broke as long as those gurus make money.
     
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