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87 Days - Still Flatline

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Affinity, Jul 21, 2017.

  1. Affinity

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    Hello. In first I'm sorry about my English. I'm from Central Europe so English is not my first language.

    Hi, I'm Petter and my story is very standard. When I was very young I Found internet pornography and my fantasy is escalated to very hardcore stuff.
    Most fetishes is gone - it's good, but flatline is still here.

    In first day's on nofap I was very horny to use porn or masturbate. After this hornyess stage I'm move to superpowers stage.
    During superpowers I was like a He-Man - Very socialise, my confidence was skyrocketed, always optimistic - In short I was better version of myself.
    On day 20 my perfect world is collapse. Shyness and social anxiety, depression, mood swings hit me so bad. I have no desire to live... to do anything and this stage are still here.

    67 days flatline ago today and I'm worried about this. Long flatline - This is normal?


    Thanks for answers. Have a nice day!
     
  2. Wow...I'm on Day 22. That's not very comforting to know you are still flatlining that far in lol :(
     
  3. Yes, it's completely normal.
    It means your brain needs more time to re-wire the brain due to the damaged caused by PM.
    So trust the process & go with the flow.
    One day you'll be free from it & realize that it was worth.
    Stay strong bud!!
    Peace.
     
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  4. Crimson

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    Hey man I'm in the same boat as you I've been flatline for all of this streak I got now so like 88 days it's completely normal younger guys like ourselves take much longer to heal from it like I'm starting to see a lot of guys flatline for an average of 6 months now.

    But the flatline does get easier when it first hit I was suicidal and so depressed I couldn't get out of bed it gets better as time goes on.

    My advice is to take up the gym it really does ease the symptoms a lot like it be hard at first but it gets easier you just got to do it every day :) also if you still nervous just pm me man :)
     
  5. Steve Sancteria

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    to be honest, I thought I am in flatline as well, then I've practiced positive thinking and realized, this flatline was nothing else but bad thoughts keeping me down for no reason.

    Not all problems come down to the fact that you are rebooting
     
  6. HappyDaysAreHereAgain

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    Be thankful that you are still healing.
    I know it is not easy, but you have a lot of years ahead, and you want to be your best for them. You can collaborate with the process. Eat well. Sleep well. Exercise. Socialize. Enjoy the life that you have without sexual pressures, and, when your urges return, you will be in much better shape to enjoy that stage. Do not waste any opportunity to grow and develop.
     
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  7. nofepfepforlife

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    Meditation, exercise and sun light will speed up the process.
     
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  8. saneagain

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    8 months in. Still shortness oft breath, dizziness / lightheadedness, brain fog, shaking hands, no sexual desire or arousal, ears ringing.

    Hang on.
     
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  9. JJSh

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    Hi Peter
    I understand the challenges of flatline. It might help if you can set some positive goals for yourself during the time. setting goals around exercise, meditation, healthy eating all help me. Good luck
     
  10. nofepfepforlife

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    Have your nocturnal and morning woods returned yet? How old are you btw? Just curious!
     
  11. saneagain

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    I have sometimes erections at night or in the morning. But most of the time not. Sometimes it's because I have to pee. Wet dream still occur.

    I am 28. 12 years pmo. Morning erections are my smallest Problem right now. All the other debilitating symptoms are far worse than not having a real libido.
     
  12. nofepfepforlife

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    What are all your symptoms? At least your woods are making a come back and 12 years pmo is a very long time. Return of woods is a positive sign your dopamine levels are coming back.
     
  13. saneagain

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    Dizziness / lightheadedness, feel like moving even when I lie or sit, bad memory, no concentration, depersonalization, palpitations, bad taste in mouth, pain in gums, feeling like my skin is warm and sometimes hot, pressure in head / chest / body when breathing, shaking hands, insomnia (waking up during night), frequent urination, fatigue / weakness, sneezing often, wet dreams, sex dreams, nightmares, eye floaters, blurry vision.

    Checked by a ton of doctors. Everything came back normal.
     
  14. nofepfepforlife

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    Did these symptoms start when you begun nofap?
     
  15. saneagain

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    I started noticing some of them last year. Strange headaches, tension in my teeth / jaw / neck, waking up too early, slightly shaking hands.

    Then in october I moved in with my parents. I binged for 2 months. Insomnia started. I lost interest in porn, had a cold and a panic attack. Since then I have all those symptoms. I think my body was in tolerance withdrawal all the time with symptoms slowly creeping up on me. Up to the point when I could not reach higher dopamine highs. That's when real withdrawal hit.

    It was really bad. I couldn't work out or run for 6 months. Some symptoms improved or disappeared. I can run and work out now, but still feel completely spaced out / out of it / not like myself.

    I got checked by many doctors. My blood (hormones, infections, inflammation) and brain with MRI.

    I had withdrawal symptoms but not this strong everytime I quit PMO in the past.
     
  16. saneagain

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    I know people will come up with BS like "it's depression"" nofap can not cause such severe symptoms" "your Depression was covered by pmo"

    I tell you what this is: bullshit. Keep telling yourself that this is just a habit. Keep pmoing and one day you will be hit by this shit too. I was ignorant too. Look at this dude :

    https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/3vwpc9/porn_withdrawal_story/

    Coincidence? No.
     
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  17. nofepfepforlife

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    I honestly believe it. I used to rage and be paranoid all day every day before I begun nofap and I had probably one of the worst depressions of my life in the first 2-3 months. It was so bad I was making concrete plans for suicide.
     
  18. saneagain

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    So depression gives you wet dreams 3 times a week and porn fetish dreams? And gives you constant porn flashbacks? This is news to me. It may be depression but only because oft porn. My suicidal thoughts disappeared after 7 months as sudden AS they appeared.
     
  19. saneagain

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    Depression does not make you unable to tolerate physical excercise or sunlight. This is typical for drug withdrawal. If you have depression excercise helps. Go look up protracted withdrawal from benzos. I have or had all oft the symptoms.
     
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  20. nofepfepforlife

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    No, I realise your withdrawal is more severe than mine, I did experience physical symptoms however. In the first month I was having a wet dream multiple days in a row and it actually hurt my penis a lot, that was such a hell I wanted to die and thought I was never going to get better. It took 4months for my orgasms and wet dreams to return to normal. Now it's 3 times a month and I don't get horrible discomfort anymore. I also lost nearly all pleasurable sensation in my penis and it's only just now returning since the beginning of this month. I did experience shaking for a while, extreme paranoia, suicidal thoughts and I've been having trouble sleeping every night in the last 4.5 months since I quit PMO. I wake up multiple times every night and have been plagued by nightmares the entire time. It's improved but it's a slow process. Even my semen took on a different form. When I had wet dreams my cum would look like little balls of fucking jelly, now its back to normal, looks normal and smells normal again finally. I genuinely wanted to die because I thought I had broken myself really badly some how and with the worst possible timing, I finally met a decent girl after all these years.

    It seemed as though the universe was laughing at me and telling me to kill myself. I ordered two types of acid off the internet and planned to mix them together in a small room a long with burning charcoals so I would pass out and die from the gas in under 2 minutes. I was 99% sure for a while that I was going to do it. And yes I did experience a lot of flash backs to pornography, another thing that's only improved for me in the last 2 months (despite a few Ming and Ping relapses, no Oing though...mind you I did edge a bit a few times)...

    I never dealt with the intolerance to exercise and sunlight though. At the start of my reboot I made a point of getting as much sunlight as possible and I still continue to exercise hard 30 minutes a day, sometimes for two 30 minute sessions. I was 114 kilograms in weight 4.5 months ago, now I am 83kgs at 6'2. I also found out too late that taking benzos actually messes with your nerves and makes you more prone to wet dreams. Even now sometimes my wet dreams don't always feel like an orgasm, sometimes they will burn a lot or I wont really feel any nice sensation at all. But I know I'm recovering because I went from having a painful wet dream EVERY time to having a orgasmic one every so often and then eventually losing the discomfort all together. Even though I tested with porn a couple times at the start of this month and know now most of my penis sensation issues are due to a lack of dopamine and conditioning to porn, I still dont think my dick will ever be the same. I'm glad I did test though, I couldn't handle that uncertainty about my condition. The last two times I fapped/edged (no orgasm) to porn, it felt surprisingly good and I could sense a pleasurable orgasm was coming, so I'm happy I'm intact physically and the bad feelings seem more limited to wet dreams.

    I also had huge impressive morning woods for the first time in 6 years in my first week or two of nofap then they vanished for quite some time, returned then vanished again and only just returned again now. Rebooting is far from being a linear process, it's a painful journey but one that guys like you and I must take, despite all the pain and suffering a long the way, we have to see it through and reach the end of our journey for the possibility of a better life and the life we were meant to live, before the discovery of the poison we call pornography.
     

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