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Are love scenes in series/movies porn?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Ghost79, Nov 3, 2019.

  1. Ghost79

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    I am talking about scenes with barely visible nudity but where 2 people are clearly having sex like in The Tudors or Game of Thrones? Can this be considered porn or would this be still considered as a relapse if I did?
     
  2. Get_It

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    At the very least its a P-sub.
     
  3. Ghost79

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    P-sub? What does that mean?
     
  4. Get_It

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    Porn substitute. Like viewing thots on Instagram or imgur.
     
  5. No, they are not P (pornography), but they are P-sub (porn substitute).

    A porn substitute is something which is not classified as pornographic but which can trigger arousal within someone to create urges. The problem with this is that it can compromise one's reboot where either the reboot will end in failure or the total time required for a reboot will be prolonged in duration. P-sub can also be a backdoor to one accessing P later on.

    A big issue with this is that while P can be clearly defined, P-sub cannot. P-sub can also vary from one individual to another. What is sexually triggering for one person outside of porn may be completely innocuous to another.

    Here is a list of P-subs (even though not exhaustive) -
    • educational videos with nudity
    • educational videos about sex
    • music videos with sexy models
    • belly dancing
    • twerking/grinding videos
    • pole dancing videos
    • erotic stories (novels and podcasts)
    • films about sex
    • films with sex scenes
    • songs about sex
    • songs with sexual vulgar slang
    • videos of clinical examination of female genitalia or breasts
    • textbooks on female sexual health (especially textbooks with pictures/photos)
    • videos on massage (where there is female involved)
    • dating apps/dating websites
    • photos of girls/women in social media
    • exercise videos featuring girls/women
    • yoga videos which show girls/women
    • aerobics videos with girls/women
    • songs by female artists
    • songs which contain themes such as love
    • watching certain types of sports played by girls/women (such as tennis with female players)
    • supermodel shows/catwalks
    • beauty magazines/women's magazines
    • men's magazines which have female models
    • the news which shows female anchors
    • shows on television/Netflix which have beautiful and attractive girls/women
    • seeing photos or videos of women who are in bikinis/monokinis
    • seeing photos/videos of female topfreedom activists
    • flirting with girls/women
    • hugging and getting kissed by girls/women
    • seeing photos of female naturists
    • watching videos of female naturists
    Therefore as you see, potentially anything can be a P-sub provided that if one is using that to replace their porn which will not help with their reboot. In this day and age, potential triggers tend to be ubiquitous in cyberspace and entertainment. So this is why if it is necessary to take a break from entertainment and social media then please consider giving them a rest during the period of rebooting. Even though from the start of my reboot in this streak, that I didn't consider staying away from social media, I later did because I felt that I was encountering certain triggers (even though they were mild compared to sex scenes in films).

    If you feel you are encountering triggers more often than not, then consider doing the Monk Mode of NoFap which is what I am doing at present.
     
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  6. Also please take a look at this video (as you mentioned Game of Thrones)

     
  7. ZenAF

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    Reboot woo woo in the house again. Ladies and Gents, just for you to write along one more time: You can't rewire your brain temporarily. If you acquire a new lifestyle, like rebooting and avoiding all triggers, your brain thinks that's the way you want to live from now on. It doesn't understand "reboot period".

    So live your life now in the way you want to live it for the rest of your life. Don't train yourself to avoid all possible triggers for half a year, unless you want to live like that until your end. I know quitting porn is hard, but those extremist methods are more pain than result. Just focus on getting rid of porn and stop treating yourself like a 5yr old that's not supposed to be exposed to anything naughty..
     
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  8. Homelander

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    It's only porn if you want it to be porn because you are still being a problematic sex addict.

    I stopped watching porn many months ago, but I refuse to live like a crazy prude fanatic because I fear seeing sex or nakedness.
    A few weeks ago I watched the romantic movie "two lovers and a beer" with my wife. This movie has several nude love making scenes in it
    and I did not mind watching this, but I could watch it like a normal person.

    If you let your fear control your life than you will never ever get over this nasty porn addiction.
    never run from your weakness but confront it head on!
    Continue your no pmo streak and DONT worry about coming across a sex scene, because that is life and will continue to be like this till the day you die.
    Stay strong!
     
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2019
  9. 4eyedfox

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    When you mention flirting with girls I can’t see how real life interactions can be a substitute for porn. Maybe if your doing it on the phone or the web.
     
  10. Qtir_nvr_wins

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  11. It all depends on one’s intention if they are deliberately using that as a substitute for porn rather than having a healthy conversation with girls. It’s all in the mind.
     

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