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Feel Good Cool Worship or Hymns and Hard Seats?

  1. Feel Good Cool Worship?

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  2. Hymns and Hard Seats?

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  3. I don't even care!

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  1. Augie

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    The absence of authority is the absence of order. Obviously not all
    order such as gravity, time, etc but of government which is something that is natural and necessary for mankind.

    That’s going to be difficult to do since there wasn’t really another form of government back then like there is now. The Bible does however sufficiently show that all leaders have been put in their positions of power by God either through His Ordaining Will or His Permitting Will. This means we must look at all leaders as being instruments in the Divine Will for our edification, punishment, or both. We are to obey them insomuch as what they want does not conflict with the Supreme Authority, God. We are allowed to oppose injustice, however, if our attempts at opposition have failed then we must accept that God has not willed our escape and that we are being called to embrace that particular cross for our own sanctity and the sanctity of others.
     
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  2. Max Fisher

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    I would clarify this and separate mankind from civilization.
     
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  3. _Catholic_

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    Yeah and Jesus is nothing more than Horus's reincarnation
     
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  4. _Catholic_

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    I'd go with option one forget his tax returns I want to see his birth certificate
     
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  5. _Catholic_

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    Ahh a Jehovah's witness look up Luke 8:26-39
    This is proof that Jesus is indeed God something that contradicts the teachings of your religion
     
  6. Augie

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    I think that’s arguing semantics. Communities/civilizations are natural to mankind; government is natural to those which make them natural to mankind.
     
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  7. vxlccm

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    First: on kings. There is no King but one :)

    Our American land is not decreed to have a king. In order for goodness to then prevail, this requires a couple things. Primarily, a majority of accountable people to require inalienable freedoms upheld by their government. Also, it requires people become accountable for themselves; this last is nearly a lost concept.

    The Jews say to Pilate in essence let his blood be upon our heads. This is the same with voting in general. We accept, as a society, the responsibility for our actions. Whereas, a king might be to blame or take credit for much good or evil accomplished in his reign. Converse respectively, what if we have a representative republic and then do not vote? We squander that which was given by God, a rare opportunity (historically speaking).

    Back to the primary thing, avoiding tyranny is always the goal, yes? Respecting inalienable rights? If we agree (as society, not just our little band of Libertarian and Christian friends here) on the goals, the destination becomes a lot easier to eventually arrive. Study the Founder's goals. if we agree with them, as a whole, the goals and the peoples conclusions, then it is difficult to assume an alternate system could ever have been deduced. I've studied half a lifetime these issues. Most of them studied a whole lifetime, in a boiler-pressure-chamber under the semi-oppressive rule. Who am I to assume better could be accomplished? Even if one throws out the concept of inspiration in their midst.

    However, divinely inspired is my exact claim. Look at the fruits. The world over has benefited from expanding freedoms:
    • Generally, as espoused by this new and unique Nation.
    • Specifically, our Constitution as a model from which many others are formed.
    Thereby, with nearer to 20/20 sight-in-hind, ex post facto claim: inspiration from God :)

    p.s. Versus anarchy which is championed only after the most evil of conspirators, even the author of all lies.
     
  8. PJT

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    Probably not. The Democrat is a simp and don't take being the head of their household serious enough.
     
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  9. PJT

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    Did you read 2 babylons?
     
  10. PJT

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    A lot of people get the trinity mixed up with the father, mother goddess and her son and husband

    It's true of the similarities between the depiction of Christ within the church system and the story of Semiramis and her son/lover. Both are offshoots of the babylonian mystery schools. But that doesn't mean the Christ of the bible is not real.

    *EDIT: not "story" per say, bc these are actual characters and people from the past who hijacked our belief system.
     
  11. Augie

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    You mean the book that tries to say that simply because there are similarities between pagans and Catholics that this means they’re the same thing? For some reason lots of people think this is a solid argument but it’s not. An example; Max is a premium supporter on NoFap and so am I. I’ve attended an EF Mass, and so has he. We’re both on NoFap because we both have a porn addiction. We’re both the same age. According to the logic presented in the similarities argument Max and I are the same person. Similarity do not equal a connection. Bishop Fulton J Sheen once demonstrated this on a TV show where he was able to give similarities between the god Apollo and Napoleon.




    Maybe you should read this: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/1480062.The_Babylon_Connection_#
     
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  12. _Catholic_

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    I was being sarcastic of course Jesus is not the reincarnation of Horus. The fact that anyone could believe that is the silliest thing I've heard
     
  13. PJT

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    Right Jesus was birthed by Mary with Joseph's sperm.
     
  14. PJT

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    I grew up in the catholic church and that church is full of interesting things. for one, Michaelangelo, an out and out gay man painted the sistine chapel. What type of Pope would allow for a man who is clearly in violation of Leviticus chapter 18 to paint the stories of the bible? The catholic church also states that Jesus rose again on the third day; no matter how you put it at most 2.5 days pass from Friday to Sunday.

    The catholic church, just like 99% of religion is an off shoot of babylonian mystery school teachings. Christmas being celebrated on December 25 which is a sun holiday should be proof enough of that.
     
  15. PJT

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    and also the headress of the pope is way too similar to the head dress of Egyptian pharoahs. These so called teachers we all look up to love having us conjure up the spirits that fall on the left hand spiritual path. There probably is a lot of similarities between napolean and apollo bc napolean venerates apollo.
     
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  16. _Catholic_

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    This proves you don't know what your talking about I take Latin at my school and my teacher actually used this as a ecample(she is not even christian(or catholic because you seem like the person who sepereates them)) Romans counted differently than we do instead of counting Friday Saturday and Sunday as 2 days they counted them as 3 days don't believe me look it up
     
  17. PJT

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    im sure they did. So now 2=3 is what you are telling me. They actually have you believe this lie. haha. Like i said, no matter how you put it 2 does not = 3 and if this is the case, they need to change the nicene creed to "on the second day Jesus rose again, in fulfillment of the scriptures" but see they did not do that.

    *EDIT: and btw if you look up this on the internet they will try and give a time of day as to when Jesus dies on Friday. it says he died at 9am to try and get us as close to 3 days as possible. We all should be vigilant especially when we are being lied to.
     
  18. _Catholic_

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    You confuse me your username is pjt which is similar just so happens to be the initials for Pluto Jupiter and tiberitus also your avatar is the symbol for Mars hmmm coincidence I think not
     
  19. _Catholic_

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    Ok a ex catholic who gave a class ranting on how she did not like st Augustine and has a degree in Latin just decided that teaching in a public school she would trick is all into believing lies ok you got me there
     
  20. PJT

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    You still confuse me when you try and tell me 2=3. PJT are the initials of my actual name. And my avatar is the stock avatar that you are given when you sign up with this site.

    You see, I can explain away what you try and accuse me of. But yet i'm supposed to believe 2=3 bc your teacher told you this lol.
     

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