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Censorship of the Internet

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Knight Solaire, Jun 10, 2015.

  1. Strugglesaurus

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    Very true. I would also like to add that whomever decides what activities are time-wasters or addictive will have the power over the people.

    It really would be a utopia, maybe create an organization with elected persons who govern what is to be censored/illegal with the people's input. Sounds too good to be true with the state of the world at the moment. There will never be a unanimous vote on this kind of stuff, so some would feel powerless. The best we can do at this point is sway the minds of others, educate them, and in the future we can hopefully create a better world together. My idealism talking, of course. :rolleyes:

    I agree they went too far in some aspects. We need a middle ground on censorship and illegality, if there is one.
     
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  2. I dont think porn should be made illegal but it shouldnt be just a click away.

    - only 19+ should have access to porn
    - every porn items should get censorship license
    - porn degrading women and triggering abnormality should be banned.
     
  3. also education videos and sexual education should be giving to youngsters. Counciling should be given to yougsters at school
     
  4. Knight Solaire

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    So, what you are trying to say is that you think the thing that has ruined your life should not be illegal, but just made harder to get ahold of. What is the point in making something harder to reach if people can always find a ladder?
     
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  5. Gilbert

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    Censoring the internet, especially in the West, would only cause uproar. It'd be better if people knew the damage of pornography and chose themselves not to watch it out of free will rather than being forced to. That said, I do think it should probably be banned or restricted a lot more heavily - anyone can stumble onto it!
     
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  6. Limeaid

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    I am really having a hard time understanding how banning porn is being seen as a "utopia". There are so many studies saying how detrimental it is to society. It is not utopia it is common sense in my opinion. It is exactly like drinking and driving. There comes a point where an individuals freedom to do what they want needs to be taken away. Why do you have a right to masturbate to visually stimulating media? Does that right take precedence over my right to feel safe in the world? Does your right to drink and drive take precedence over my right to not get killed in a car accident? I don't see a difference. For some reason porn gets it's own category because it is apparently about sex, so people feel it is a 'right' to view it....it's not! There is absolutely not one study that says that porn is beneficial to society or the people who view it. Anything with that much negativity behind it would be banned but the right to masturbate takes precedence over all of it.
     
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  7. Limeaid

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    There was also an uproar in my country when they banned smoking in public places and in airplanes. People eventually get over it.
     
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  8. *****

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    Really? !
    Smoking is much more harmful and the studies about it are crystal clear and it's still not banned.
    In this capitalist world all what matters is money and porn is an industry with 13 billion dollars of annual profit and they pay taxes.They also hire a lot of people.
    They are also , again , a legal industry so banning them is extremely difficult for current governments as they don't want to be accused by a lot of people that they are against freedom.
    Driving while being drunk can kill other people which porn don't.
    That's why it's a utopia.
     
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  9. Devorian

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    Sadly you are right it is the same reason why prohibition didn't work people want something bad enough there is no stopping them from getting it. We now look at freedom to do something as a reason to have the porn industry around. While most of the time when it is looked up by a boy in his early teens it has normally two reactions, it is frowned upon and he gets punished but does that really end it? Or it just gets looked at as oh he is just a growing boy and he will grow out of it. I know there are more reaction but these just seem to be the general aspects that I have seen. I do agree with Prakash in which maybe more education can be beneficial about what the adverse affects of this industry does to the human psyche, but even then that was also done with alcohol and marijuana. Even though yes China went too far a full ban might be what has to happen, although it may not fully stop the people from getting access to it anyway.
     
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  10. Limeaid

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    Smoking IS banned when it comes into contact with others. Public and confined places, at least in my country it is. There are crystal clear studies about the negative effects if pornography as well. One study shows how it can change mens attitudes towards women and make them more likely to blame her for being raped. Does this not have a detrimental effect on a society if that man then becomes a police officer or judge? What about porn fuelling sex trafficking and child porn? The list is endless for how it negatively impacts others.

    I will agree that capitalism fuels this. Capitalism fuels a lot of evil doers because of the almighty dollar. This is why a country like China can ban it.
     
  11. *****

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    I would really like to see a full ban. When the muslim brotherhood won the parliament elections here in Egypt , they wanted to completely block and ban porn but the liberals and secularists together with the media objected and they said it was against freedom and blah blah blah.
    I don't like the brotherhood but I wish they blocked this shit.
     
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  12. Devorian

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    Yes smoking in public buildings has been banned where I live as well but in the same aspect of this viewing porn is normally done in the privacy of ones home which does not affect those around the viewer they way smoking affects those in a public area
     
  13. *****

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    I don't want to get into an argument about the utopia thing.
    I just want to point that the communist party in China ( which has become communist in name only lately) do care about the dollar but they care about their authority much more.They don't really care about their people or they wouldn't kill them using the army in tiananmen square back in 1989.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989
     
  14. Devorian

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    The main focus we should have on this is simple China took a huge step but was it the right one or should it be copied in a way through out the rest of the world
     
  15. Limeaid

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    I am not saying that China is perfect but the USA has been responsible for atrocities as well. Democracy is an illusion.
     
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  16. Limeaid

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    Again I will point out that there are countless studies that show detrimental effects of porn on society. If viewing something has been shown to affect others, then it DOES affect others. Just because you can't tangibly feel or smell porn effects doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    Answer me this. Has porn changed you and your views of women? Most men will say yes. This impacts society, just like second hand smoke. When 56% of divorces blame porn as a big part of the problem then this too affects society and children.
     
  17. Devorian

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    I feel like that too. The American government has become more about protecting the industries funding the politicians then serving and protecting the citizens like they should. If it wasn't that way maybe the porn industry wouldn't be the powerhouse it is now
     
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  18. Devorian

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    My rebuttal is this being a raciest is not in anyway ok, but the government cant come kick your door in because you made a raciest joke behind closed doors. Yes porn has a very negative affect on society but in the spirit of the right to pursue happiness the problem we face with a government that has as many hoops to go through as democracy, the industry has the upper hand
     
  19. himmelstoss

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    Porn actually was illegal for most of America's history. The supreme court had to use some pretty weird loopholes (likening it to obscure forms of artistic photography) in order to legalize it.
     
  20. Knight Solaire

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    I didn't know that. That's ridiculous.
     
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