does masturbating to a real girl picture count as porn?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by johanbeatz, Sep 5, 2017.

  1. kropo82

    kropo82 Fapstronaut

    You've had answers that say 'yes, this is a reset' and replies that say 'no, this is not porn' and I think that reflects the variety of reasons people are here. If your goal is to avoid masturbation and porn for 90 days, then masturbating to the photos she sent you is clearly a relapse. But if your goal is to rid your life of pornography then I'd say that this was OK – it's a girl who likes you trying to capture your heart (and showing how much she trusts you too). Really it is an opportunity to examine your goals and your reasons for abstaining from masturbation and porn.

    Your original post mentions that you suffer from PIED. In your shoes I would be tempted to go for a 90 day no-porn and no-masturbation reboot but to allow the physical side of the relationship with this new girlfriend to blossom. But that's a decision for you.
     
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  2. Got to Overcome

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    To clarify my point, I absolutely do not consider a nude photo of my wife pornographic. She's my wife, and it would therefore be ridiculous for me to view pictures of her in that way.

    But here's an example to further explain where I'm coming from: My wife sends me pictures of her during the day. I look at them, become excited and return home to have sex with her. Have I relapsed? Of course not. But if instead of returning home to have sex with her, I look at the pictures and masturbate to them, have I relapsed? Yes, as my goal is to not waste any more of my life sitting in front of screens and masturbating.

    With all that said, relapses are very much an individual thing. Each person has goals, and it's up to the individual to determine which behaviors are going to hinder the achievement of those goals and abstain from them.
     
  3. I will win

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    It's doesn't matter whether it was porn or not. Do you think that hentai is okay? He actually said that he masturbated to her naked photons, which means, that it was something sexual as hentai.
     
  4. First of all, to all the "what were you thinking?" responses--chill TF out. Way to be supportive, guys. /s

    To the actual question, that's something I think we're all trying to work out if we're really trying to understand this. I think the answer is nuanced. If you're going to do it one way or another, I'd much rather see you working in the direction of a real, honest-to-god woman who is clearly interested in you. I think that is a step in the direction of building a connection with this woman. I think a healthy mind in the same situation would likely do the same thing, but I can't say for certain. This would definitely not be the same situation if it were a picture of a porn "actress". So, take a minute to look at what you're doing right. This is not easy stuff, man.

    The nuanced part, IMO, is what was going through your head (and I'm not asking for details). Was it a replay of things that actually happened between you? Was it a reasonable extension of real life circumstances that could have or possibly will happen in the future? ...or was it a complete porn fantasy with this woman in the starring role? I'm not judging here, I've been there myself. My point is to question whether or this is leading to reality or to further fantasy. Is it baby steps in a good direction or merely new material? These are your goals; this is your call. Be honest with yourself and screw the rest of us.

    Whether or not you reset your counter, congratulations on being present enough in the real world that you have a budding relationship. Seriously, take a minute or two to focus on the things you're doing right. It's very easy to get down on ourselves. I hope you guys have a good run, whatever that looks like for you. Hang in there.
     
  5. johanbeatz

    johanbeatz Fapstronaut

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    Thanks man I really like this girl I hope everything works out fine. to answer your question what was going through my mind at that moment was scenes from my past relationship with other women I had but with this girl as my lover we havent had sex yet but we are in the process I try not to think about porn anymore so I try to think about some good sex I had in the past instead my main goal is to be able to maintain a good erection with a real woman thats why I gave up on porn and even hated because of all the trouble it caused me. I used to use pills to get it hard but last time I tried I wasnt able to get it hard because my libido was too low didnt feel nothing to a real naked woman I even question my sexuality a couple times since I was also hooked on gay porn but now I that I havent watched porn for a long time I find them gross af i just want to be cured and enjoy sex and life thank you for your response man
     
  6. Fork2323

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    I just want to point out that a girl like this may be trouble. Here she is, you have never been on a date and she is sending you nakid photos?! She might be a sex addict too.. who else does she send nakid photos that she bearly knows and is all touchy with? Know you are not the 1st one.. Plus you work with her.. so even if you have sex, it could get really weird if it dont work out and then she starts flirting with other co-workers. Plus she aint smart to send you nakid photos you could show other co-workers.. who does that? She is using sex to try to hook you in. She might have lots of childhood trama and uses sex to checkout and numb out and will use you as a human dildo to just get off with. It might be fun at 1st but ive dated lots of crazy women that started out this way, so im just saying be really careful. I had to learn to walk away of lots of hot chicks who want to have sex but are too much troubel to be worth it. Its hard because you see them with other guys but in long run you save yourself from lots of pain.. I'd find out about her family history. Ask her about her parents and check to see if she has any abandenment issues or childhood trama or hates her dad or was beaten as a child. Just because an attractiven women wants to have sex with you and is tying to seduce you does not mean you should.
    Just saying be careful. Maybe she really does like you and you are a great catch and she only does this stuff for you..
     
  7. SelfControlIsTheGoal

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    I fuck up a 66 day streak to a girl I was talking to because she wanted to see... I haven't gotten back there since. Don't fall for the trap
     
  8. johanbeatz

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    Lol wtf man we have dated we just havent had sex because im not the type of guy that her family want her with she a really wonderful girl I have dated bad girls in the past and I know whats up she sent me the pictures because she likes me she has proved it in other ways not just the pictures that was new but thanks for the advise
     
  9. Recoveryattempt

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    Yes, its a screen, not a real girl. Its a relapse
     
  10. Joshhayze24

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    If you’re asking if it’s a relapse then it’s a relapse. Just start over.