[ESSAY] PMO as a symptom of Conservatism

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Deleted Account, Sep 3, 2018.

  1. ClaudeDuval

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    Porn creators literally made films mocking the christian right. All the school girl crap, even now its blatantly obvious that the industry has an agenda... its not just entertainment just like hollywood isnt simple entertainment anymore... hollywood is getting more sexual and political(50 shades, another film recently about pederasty, etc). they're left wing atheists... its a known fact right wingers in southern california will get NO work in those entertainment industries. Lol
     
  2. ClaudeDuval

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    These youtubers have to be very careful about what they post... are you seriously going to argue that jack dorsey of twitter and mark zuckerberg are right wingers? The uk government is right wing too? Wow... lol and they jail their own in some big conspiracy? I guess arresting lauren southern for no reason, banning michael savage, etc. Is all part of their pro right wing agenda? Please... thats pure delusion.
     
  3. "Nude breast" is not porn. Nudity is not porn.

    The 1960s were more important to promote the market of anti-conceptives than promiscuity. The cause of "sexual liberation" didn't originated with Marx, but with free-market pharmaceuticals. Hardcore conservatives oppose "abortion pills" - are they promoting promiscuity?

    Woman show their breasts not because they were calling for sex, or "asking to be raped" (as some internet "intellectuals" may claim), but because they wanted to place their bodies as "natural", not prohibited. Unfortunately, the "market" also took control of this: using naked bodies to sell their products. But that was NOT the intention of feminism in the 60s.

    And you are wrong about nudity in United States (again, a religious mindset takes over). These are some of the depictions of NY beaches in the 1920s, made by George Bellows. You can count a number of people naked here (lower class, of course; not yet holding the values of the bourgeoisie).
     
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  4. Yes, they do mock Christianity - and exposing Christian elements they only reinforce the religious narrative. So, what it does, in the end, is a favour for the church: because it portraits sex as a sin, subliminally.

    "They are left wing atheists" (???_

    Where is the evidence?

    And: why do they use religious symbols if they are, as you claim, atheists?

    I prefer to believe Porn industry has some degree of satanism, but what we widely see is not really religious - but political. And political in a reactionary way! I don't think I need to describe the multitude of political content you can find there (you know, the whole thing of "border patrol", "fake rape" "interracial/confederate gang bangs", etc - this is definitely NOT an left-wing theme...).

    I am impressed by your accuracy! I will try to remind my conservative friends that the Tory party is now red, not blue. Maybe Donald Trump is left-wing too, and I wasn't aware. Or maybe Netanyahu is left-wing too, and I didn't know. It is a communist take over, obviously.

    How deluded I am!
     
  5. This is another discussion. As the other member above, you claim that political liberalism is not a "right-wing" trait. This is delusional.

    As I pointed out, two values of the Porn Industry are: Free Market/Capitalism and Free Speech/Liberalism. They need this to survive. Communism and Socialism do not share the same values, and it is unheard of Communist governments promoting pornography or making money of it (not even in Weimar Germany, the crucial example of every far-right mindset).

    NOTE ON WEIMAR GERMANY

    You might be accostumed to believe that enterteinment in Weimar was "communist" and "degenerate", but Weimar's most known achievement was German Expressionism, not Porn.

    Weimar Republic also gave us Leni Riefenstahl, Hilter's favourite film-maker.

    And curiously, the main financier of films during Weimar later also became a Nazi - and sold the national film-making company, established in Weimar, to Hitler.

    In 1917 a process of concentration and partial nationalisation of the German film industry began with the founding of Universum Film AG (UFA), which was partly a reaction to the very effective use that the Allied Powers had found for the new medium for the purpose of propaganda.

    In March 1927, Alfred Hugenberg, an influential German media entrepreneur and later Minister of the Economy, Agriculture and Nutrition in Hitler's cabinet, purchased Ufa and transferred it to the Nazi Party in 1933.

    How left-wing is that?

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    I would like to point out two uncomfortable details about the internet moguls that you claim to be leftie:

    - Peter Thiel (Paypal) financed Trump - he was the heaviest donator and now works for him in National Security issues.
    - Mark Zuckerberg's Facebook might have sent money to Clinton, but it also sold personal data of its users to political agencies. In the UK we know that Cambridge Analitica was responsible for the right-wing coup d'etat, Brexit (that promoted the most distorted news I ever heard about). Zuckerberg is also pro-Zionist, which is a fundamental characteristic of the Right.
    - Zuckerberg was compared to Hitler by one of his employees. He is a fruit of Harvard - not absolutely apolitical, but very pro-capitalism. He has created a platform for dissemination of ideas, and among those who pay you will find your governments (with no restriction of party, and ideology). You might claim he is "left-wing", but that doesn't mean he is promoting left-wing ideas with his website (that I bet you are in) - after all, he is interested in the market and political manipulation. I would say he is neoliberal, but I can't see his product as a left-wing contribution to society (Social Media is DEFINITELY not social, has not tackled any social issues and it help to promote a number of hate groups and obscure internet celebrities).

    And it is good to remember that "controlled opposition" is real - and one of the strategies that brought Trump to power - he was elected because he was despised (just like Hitler).

    http://thehill.com/policy/technology/314291-tech-titans-make-pilgrimage-to-trump-tower
     
  6. KillCommunism

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    After that last post, I'm now convinced you're a schizophrenic.
     
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  7. Sure, I am the one saying the "UK government is not right-wing".

    BTW: Ad Hominem attack? Hum... that's bad... Total lack of argument.
     
  8. ClaudeDuval

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    KillCommunism never said that, I did. And the UK government is NOT right wing, that's why they accepted more refugees than many other EU areas and they silence/arrest right wingers like Tommy Robinson, Lauren Southern, Banned michael savage, and Martin Sellner & Brittany Pettibone were denied entry. Poland? Right wing. Hungary? Right wing. Uk? No lol. With Salvini I'd even give you Italy, but the UK is anything BUT right wing. You claim they arrest right wingers to aid the right wing party like some big conspiracy? Please lol And yes, Pornography is certainly facilitated by certain aspects of capitalism, I have plenty of negative things to say about capitalism(it's not perfect). And zuckerberg isn't right wing just because he is a zionist, he's a zionist because he's Jewish(there is such a thing as left wing zionists). And as far as I know, paypal has little influence on media or news. I've given you many examples and the only thing you can come up with is Mark Zuckerberg supporting Israel(which means nothing) and Paypal.

    "The sexual revolution, also known as a time of sexual liberation, was a social movement that challenged traditional codes of behavior related to sexuality and interpersonal relationships throughout the United States and subsequently, the wider world, from the 1960s to the 1980s. Sexual liberation included increased acceptance of sex outside of traditional heterosexual, monogamous relationships (primarily marriage). The normalization of contraception and the pill, public nudity, pornography, premarital sex, homosexuality, and alternative forms of sexuality, and the legalization of abortion all followed...."

    "Another contribution that helped bring about this modern revolution of sexual freedom were the writings of Herbert Marcuse and Wilhelm Reich, who took the philosophy of Karl Marx and similar philosophers, and mixed together this chant for freedom of sexual rights in modern culture...."

    "The fact that pornography was less stigmatised by the end of the 1980s, and more mainstream movies depicted sexual intercourse as entertainment, was indicative of how normalised sexual revolution had become in society. Magazines depicting nudity, such as the popular Playboy and Penthouse magazines, won some acceptance as mainstream journals, in which public figures felt safe expressing their fantasies."

    This is what started the modern porn industry in the US as we know... It was a left wing movement that had support from various Marxists, feminists, and "free love" hippies(KGB actors according to ex GRU officer and defector Stanislav Lunev). Stop playing...
     
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  9. ClaudeDuval

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    So you're going to use a few examples to refute the fact that the Weimar era was full of communist propaganda and porno theaters and porno art? Brilliant. This era was the rehearsal for the 1960s sexual revolution of the US and it was committed by the same actors and actresses. It's an attempt to demoralize and spread a moral virus...

    The formula is simple: destroy the belief system on which that society is founded, especially its religion and its traditional codes of honor and decency. Promote godlessness and a philosophy of despair. To put it in even plainer language: reduce men to beasts if you wish to control them.

    Lukács, one of the founding fathers of the Frankfurt School, had called for “a culture of pessimism and a world abandoned by God.” And it was one of their most fanatical ideologues, Willi Munzenberg who had said he wanted to turn the world upside down and make life a hell on earth. His exact words were "WE MUST ORGANIZE THE INTELLECTUALS AND USE THEM TO MAKE WESTERN CIVILIZATION STINK! ONLY THEN, AFTER THEY HAVE CORRUPTED ALL ITS VALUES AND MADE LIFE IMPOSSIBLE, CAN WE IMPOSE THE DICTATORSHIP OF THE PROLETARIAT."

    They learned that the Sexual Revolution, in order to succeed, had to be a slow and gradual process. “Modern forms of subjection” the Frankfurt School had learned, “are marked by mildness.” Weimar had failed because the pace had been too frenetic. People were aware they were being corrupted. That was fatal. Is it any wonder why a certain someone came to power? The people were sick and broken... they demanded order and a door way out of chaos.

    I'm not going to get much more in depth, I've already been suspended for saying certain things I believe... Connect the dots. I'm not a mainstream conservative who supports the serpentine state occupying Palest... :) nvm lol But I consider myself "right wing".
     
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  10. Born-Again

    Listen, I read your posting history. In your own words, you can't get an erection to anyone, including your partner. You're addicted to sissy porn. You're repeatedly relapsing.

    You said:
    Your wordy post is an elaborate attempt to avoid your own problems. Porn will not bring you satisfaction. It will not bring you joy, peace, love, or happiness. Neither will erotic text. Neither will promiscuity and masturbation. They're going to do the opposite. They'll desensitize you, make you weak and miserable, and rob all the color and depth of feeling from your life. Stop trying to defend the things that are destroying you.

    Best of luck to you.
     
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  11. Actually, I am amazed to see the "hive mentality" trying to limit my discussion here, and with all sorts of dirty strategies (including removing posts because it is triggering to write the word "NAKED BREASTS").

    IT ONLY PROVES WHAT I SAID: NoFap is a cult, a neoconservative cult, an anti-sex cult, anti-body cult, where all religious fanatic, neonazi, hate-preacher, will find a comfortable space to articulate their little reactionary agendas.

    And now you are using an emotional "cheap trick" to discredit what I am trying to say, in a fashion that only the internet could allow (bringing elements outside of the discussion to make me feel bad about myself) - how mature of you to come here to "expose" me as someone who can't get orgasms! (I just had one yesterday, with my new partner - the other one was bad in bed. So, don't worry - it was quite cathartic to realise that I was using NoFap to become obsessed with "normality", with "masturbation", while in the end I just deserved a good fuck). :)
     
  12. Because there isn't any depth - what you say can be found in any white-supremacist website around. David Duke, Brother Nathaniel, etc. This is your "depth".
     
  13. ClaudeDuval

    ClaudeDuval Fapstronaut

    Okay, buddy. If its a cult, why are you still on here? Lol You hardly give any solid answers just round about rants with anecdotal evidence and minority examples. The fact that you implied mark Zuckerberg is right wing just tells the story of your extreme delusions. "Mark zuckerberg supports israel, hes right wing.... not everything that came out of the weimar republic ran counter to the reich so therefore the entirety of the weimar republic doesn't sound very left wing to me" mmmk lol A real voice of reason. You cant refute anything I say, you talk in circles and you're a waste of my time. Have a nice life... lol go start a blog, bud. Lmao
     
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  14. MLMVSS

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    You do know the majority of NoFap consists of atheists and agnostics, right?
     
  15. bigboibez

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    Im sorry but i simply wont have this. The right wing is about conserving morality and traditional values (religious values, strong family bonds, patriotism). The most ridiculous thing ive heard all year is that porn is FAR right agenda. Whose agenda? One whole part of facism/nazism is gender roles and family values. This is even so in conservatism. Porn goes directly against those values by devaluing women and reducing male drive to want a family.

    The left (especially marxist thinking) would benefit from porn heavily as it corrupts peoples will to stand up and fight, separates families and is degenerate. Couple that with the current political correctness/sexual freedom agenda currently being pushed and you have a perfect world where the cancer of socialism can make its way to power and slowly destroy society.

    The left is as bad as it gets. Short term pleasure for a lack of long term fulfillment, rights without responsibilities, and putting men and women against each other.

    Men wouldnt even need porn if there was education around the negative harms of it and if women werent being pushed into a career mindset where men and women are competing against one another. Men and women need to complement each other for a successful family.

    Porn goes against everything the right stands for. It is not a conservative thing in the slightest.
     
  16. Hoorak

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    Well im am genz (21 y old) and consider myself for the most part right, or like want to call it , and demonize it : conservative. You are just a leftie trying to spread your views like a religion. ( i distance myself from anything religious/spiritual or believing in some god which a bit " weird" for a conservative " guy) . I just want to live like my ancestors, there views on the world and love look healthy to me , this views produced new life, which is in my opinion natural. I dont know how people thinked about life or where they egalitarian in ancient times ( like stone age), they are too far away. For me the last some centuries count. The end
    One thing: you like to say or atleast quote a guy/ women whatevr which says masturbation brings pleasure threfore how can it not be natural? It must be right. Ok. Then we make correlations. Processed sugar brings pleasure it releases dopamine, ... and whatevr chemical in the brain , in other words it feels good. For a moment. You probably now the effects of processed sugar to the human body. Using drugs brings pleasure - is iit natural? U know the answer. And so one alcohol, nicotine, caffeine. Science beats this philosophy. Back to masturbation. It imitates / mimics the sexual act between to people , but the brain does not care what it is , is it really a product of love , of a bond , or is it because u are bored, cant sleep, wanna cure depression etc. The chemicals get released like u having sex ( not exactly the same) but very similar. Too much pleasure is never good , it creates dizzinies, brain fog ( i exper. myself). Only chemicals determine the state of a mind .
     
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  17. Hoorak

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    I read in one study that the more a man watches porn , the more liberal are his views on women. ( it wasnt written exactly like this but this was like a conclusion.) This is true for myself , now free from porn i aint that liberal
     
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