I'm not dismissing all of your knowledge, I'm only dismissing some of the medieval, religious, unscientific and sexist nonsense you seem to be edging towards. I am also dismissing your attitude as condescending, superior, arrogant and unhelpful.
I'm not religious? See you, again you've preconceived ideas about me. That's because you're brainwashed. You think just because I use words as sin and immorality and am of the opinion that masturbation is a immoral act, more destructive in the long run than any other drug, you turn deaf and stop reading what I say. You don't even give me a chance, you simply dismiss me as a religious nutcake and you feel like you've to go in opposition. You really don't know much about women. Women are more emotionally sensitive than men, they're more easily stressed out. Just open your eyes, is there men going around crying for all the slaughtered animals we so grossly kill every year to feed ourselves? Compare a woman's reaction to the reaction of a man when they see an advertisement about starving children. So you decide what is unscientific? I clearly report about things scientists and philosophers has been claiming since the very beginning of mankind, yet you dismiss this as unscientific bullshit? Man, please. Either you're in denial or you're so brainwashed to believe that you must debate against a guy that does not argue with wimpy attitudes. I don't believe in saying things like "Oh man, sorry for your relapse, try again now! You're strong, You did alright! Relapse is no little thing". We must be hard on each other, we must fight this like men, not like wimps. Why shall we treat each other like little children? Why can't we talk like men? Clearly you are brainwashed by feminist-homo-communist propaganda. They have tricked you to believe that if someone demands you anything, that you shall stand up on your own feet, then they are evil. Everything else than talking to each other like we are little children is evil and an unempathetic approach. Ridiculous. And, you're talking about fighting an addiction. I'm mainly interested in fighting a horrible addiction but also to conserve ones sexual energy - life force. There's a tremendous difference between us. And if I haven't made that clear, that should be clear now. And one accidental way of wasting ones vital force is through wet dreams, that's why I avoid it. Because I want my mind clear and my body vigorous. I want to feel energetic and alert for the rest of my life, everyday. If you don't want to, that's up to you.
I don't try to impersonate anybody. This account is not "me", I don't represent anyone. I use this to debate and argue but mainly to help out others. Stop acting like a rat, mind your own f*cking business. I'm not pointing out what everyone is doing wrong. READ THE TOPICMAKERS QUESTION GOD DAMNIT. I helped him out, I've said several times that it shouldn't be counted as a relapse, depending on your own personal view. I only said that they are not beneficial for report, although it can be somewaht a good sign if you never had them. Read what I say.
And, you claim that I'm not helping anyone, yet I've received several private messages from guys thanking me and agreeing with what I say. Just because you can't take it like a man does not mean anyone else can't. Some men prefer to be treated like men. And you're brainwashed to believe that we shall show every single person endless empathy, no matter how shitty that person is. A drinker that does not even try to reform, who betrays his family and eliminates his prospects, without a single effort to reform, to even try once to be good and useful. Such a man is a worthless piece of shit, comparable to a parasite. And everyone shares this opinion, deep in their hearts, because we all hate parasites. No matter what we say to disguise ourselves. What I do have sympathy for? Men that honestly tries to improve themselves, who tries everyday to reform, to be a little bit better than yesterday. Such men deserves endless respect and admiration. But stop pretending that we men are imbeciles and completely without self-will.
Where did I say that you were religious? I said that some of the stuff you post is akin to religious - (ie no sex unless its for procreation) You also seem to be cherry picking ancient academia and religious ideas (natural law) and promoting it as if its gospel. Personally I'm no fan of organised religion, and if anyone starts going all Jesus on me I'll drop them like a wet fart on a windy beach. Excuse me - if you were honest about your age (19) that makes me more than 25 years older than you, which stands to reason I have a LOT more experience of the opposite sex than you. Not that it's entirely relevant to anything, but considering I'm also ethically vegan I think I know fairly well how I react to the sight of tortured animals thank you. The begining of mankind? You mean when we'd paint on cave walls with our own shit, or do we move a bit forward to the point where we would try to cure disease through flagellation? Seriously, you have to get to grips with current thinking and start viewing things in the context of modern science - you said yourself that you support nutjobs like Kellog - someone who was known for promoting female genital mutilation. I actually agree with this, but there's a line between being firm and being a condescending dickhead who's been abstinent for 5 minutes. I'm not a feminist, or a communist. I'm also not a misogynist and still believe in equality. You clearly have a very low view of women and see them as weak an in need of protection. You've lost me with this. I'm done with fighting against my addictions. Fighting suggests that we need willpower, when very often it was willpower that got us in this mess. There's no need to fight any of this - the trick in my mind is surrender.
Ok I'm done with debating with you. I haven't said that I supported Kellogg. You keep putting words in my mouth. Sorry, this is pointless. Good luck and I am sure that you reach success.
There's nothing wrong with medieval thinking, by the way. Anyone who has studied it even a little bit instead of swallowing modern dogma would understand this.
Thank you for a very entertaining and interesting thread, Clumsy. I mean that as a compliment. I don't agree with all your views, but do read and knod with agreement with some of them.
THANK GOD for wet dreams. I LOVE these stuff so much, it's like your body saying "YAY!!! FREE ORGASM FOR YOU!!!! " I honestly don't understand how one can consider them being bad. I mean, why do we girls have some too? I don't ejaculate sperm I'm afraid, so what is it for? And why do some people that have never masturbated or have sex nor felt the need do have some too? For me I naturally think it's the simplest way to eliminate sexual tension. Perhaps is there a way to control you unconsciousness; if yes, then please give me the recipe; but I think sexual tension is like a rubber band. You can play with it, stretch it, and if you stretch to much, it breaks, BOOM, relapse. But it also can stay stretched without breaking. And if it's too stretched, as your body is the most perfect Creation, there's a way to do anything, and eliminate tension is one of them, and it's called wet dreams. Besides I find them really funny, due to the unconsciousness mixing your thoughts with sexual tension in a berserk manner. The other day I had a wet dream where the guy was Justin Bieber. Lmfao. I woke up half disgusted half crying of laughter. Seriously, why make it harder for yourself? Accept it as a gift. DOPAMINE IS NOT A POISON. It's excellent to have some otherwise you'd be depressed and suicidal. The thing is, the more naturally it comes, the better. And as this is unconsciousness, it's purely a gift. And about the chaser effect, IS IT A DAMN EXCUSE TO RELAPSE??? ANSWER: no. LONG LIVE WET DREAMS!!!
I think you are giving these people to much of your energy Clumsy, Now that YOU HAVE STARTED TO ACCUMULATE YOUR ENERGIES through abstinence you should try to also conserve them and only give them to people who want it. You have released so much in this thread. Im only learning this myself lately. Most of these folks here are not on your level, and their pride and ego is keeping them from understanding and learning what you are trying to say. Don't worry about trying to fix the world and everyone in it, just concentrate on yourself bud, it will do you a lot of good. We all have a long ways to go, PMO is just the start!
Sorry Clarity, but being Christian, more specifically a Catholic, I took exception to your statement above. I'm sure you were trying to make a point, however please be aware there are users on this forum who are in fact religious and take statements above personally.
I think we should probably see these things in less of a black & white perspective. Having a wet dream is not like PMO in broad day light, but it is an O. It is an attempt of the brain to pleasure itself using O. It also depends on the nature of the dream! If I dream that I am fapping to porn than its almost like PMO. But if I dream that I look at my mother and than I have an O (god forbid) it's more of a psychological issue floating to the surface and something like that could even be a breakthrough in one's psyche. That's why I added another counter, I didn't PMO for 61 days but I did O about 9 days ago in a wet dream.
Try to workout your PC muscle. This muscle loses its strenght when it is unused. I was really close on my 7 th day to pollution during wet dream and then after working this muscle out, I have no problem...
I was speaking of my own reaction when confronted with certain religious ideologies - in other words, a personal opinion. So while I didn't mean to cause offence I won't be offended if you decide to take it ;-)
How can you say our teeth are not meant for meat? Where is the proof? And you are somewhat correct about how the body does not emit any enzymes in the mouth to begin to break down protein in the oral cavity, HOWEVER, ever heard of the enzyme pepsinogen? Emitted into your stomach to break down proteins? The body is very adept at consuming proteins, not just carbohydrates.
Every body needs protein. I said that our tongues does not respond to amino acids and tongues does usually represent what diet we are meant to eat. And meat eaters teeth are usually sharper than human teeth... And then comes the cooking argument. Don't say it. -> But I would be insane if I claimed if I knew the perfect human diet. Nobody knows it, yet.
