Gas for Executions Amid Turmoil Over Lethal Injection

Basically a creationism in schools? More or less teaching Deism in class as a soft sell to make them open to Christianity. More or less like "look at this complex organism, it's so perfect right? Could random processes have made this or could it have been an intelligent design. Rinse and repeat.

 

This thread is entitled: Gas for Executions Amid Turmoil Over Lethal Injection.

Does that method seem preferable, if we are to assume that the death penalty will remain in a few countries like the USA?
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Remember - From 1890 to 2010, the rate of botched lethal injections in the USA was 7.1%, higher than any other form of execution, with firing squads at 0%, the electric chair at 1.9%, hanging at 3.1%, and the gas chamber at 5.4%.

 

I say like I said before, humaneness should bot be considered. The death penalty should be feared to be a deterrent. Go with firing range and hanging.

 

I have walls around me because of my autism and it has served me well in life.

I don't just hand it out like candy and actually value something like say a relationship. So you're saying if your partner cheated on you that you could somehow forgive them for doing such an act? How do you ever forgive that they cheated on you when they didn't bother to talk about what the problem was in the relationship, or any other thing they didn't like. I can't think of any reason to forgive somebody that willingly does something as treacherous as that, there is literally no excuse.

There are some thing's that truly can't be forgiven and I guess you have an easier time forgiving people but I don't, trust is one of the biggest things in my life and when it's severely broken like that I tend not to forgive that person, it has nothing to do with being hurt in the past.

You can't forgive someone just for the sake of forgiveness itself, there has to be a good reason as to why they deserve it. That's why it's more of a personal basis and really depends on what happened to you and what was said to warrant forgiveness, but there are some actions that are just unforgivable, surely you understand that.

 

Except to me some people aren't worthy of compassion or forgiveness though, for instance how could you forgive a person for murdering somebody close to you? Doesn't matter what they felt after what was done, they still did it with intent and nothing they say will change that.

I can assure you I most certainly haven't screwed up like any of those people, and if I did I wouldn't want to be forgiven for what I did.

 

All hats off to you mate, but I couldn't and wouldn't forgive a person that commits such a crime in the first place. Especially one that takes a large part of my life away.

 

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History shows that the fear of death and punishment havnt served us well and has been totally in effective when it comes to stopping crime. I'm not going to go all SJW like, "It's not the criminals fault cause they had a hard life" cause I'm for personal responsibility. You still need to recognize the fact that people who commit rapes and murder are disfunctional and are the types of people who dont think about consequence.
We have disgusting leaders in the US who allow people to get butt raped in jail. As far as im concerned butt rape is the worst thing that can happen to a man. You would think going to a place where people have a high likelihood to get raped is enough of a deterrent but in the US jails are full to the brim.

I know people think its all liberal but trying to scare a psycho into compliance has been proven not to work.

 

I don't speak for anyone but myself, but for me it's not a matter of what someone "deserves." I don't believe Hitler deserves forgiveness, nor do I believe I deserve forgiveness for any of the bad things I've done. In fact, I believe we have all done enough "bad things" to deserve the eternal prison of hell.

So it's not about what people deserve, to me. I don't forgive people because they deserve it, and I don't believe God forgives us because we deserve it. He does it because it's who HE is, not because of who WE are. And that's what I strive to be as well. I want to be a forgiving person. When I forgive someone, it's not about who they are or what they've done, it's about the kind of person I want to be.

 

I didn't say that at all... you're greatly simplifying my views. And you're also getting into a deeply theological conversation, which isn't what this thread is about.

The basic message of the gospel is that all have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God, and therefore will spend eternity in hell. Jesus came as a sacrifice for our salvation, and anyone who recognizes that and accepts that free gift will be saved from that grisly fate. Yes, including criminals. Again, though, you use the word "shouldn't," which, to me, implies that you think I'm saying they don't deserve to suffer in hell. But I didn't say that. In fact, I basically said the opposite of that.

That's all I'm going to say on that. This thread isn't a debate about religion and forgiveness.