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Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by perusan, Aug 6, 2014.

  1. perusan

    perusan Fapstronaut

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    What do people think of a Hardmode Only Forum within the Main section?

    I have got to a point where I am tired of reading about people who M during their recovery because they are not doing hardmode, but then keep posting about relapsing. For me, and I believe for many, the only way to recover from PMO addiction is to stop M completely. It isn't about taking a holiday from P, it is about retraining the brain to understand that both P and M is unnecessary.

    I know that M has its uses and its joys, but I don't think it has a place in a community where people are trying to recover from an addiction that involves M. Once you have sorted out your addiction and feel safe and secure enough to continue having a healthy sexual life then I can see that M can have a place in that. But here, at NoFap, for me trying to battle my demons I want to support those who are committed the same way that I am. A Hardmode Only Forum would make that easier. There would still be the General Forum for those who don't wish to go the hardmode route.

    So those are my reasons for the suggestion. Does anyone feel the same?
     
  2. Yes, but please don't call it "hard mode". I prefer "Freedom mode".
     
  3. richardlessman

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    Awesome idea Perusan and I totally agree with you. It's got to be really hard to ditch an addiction that connects M and P together without getting rid of both.
     
  4. APCIA

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    agree! I would use it
     
  5. IGY

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    No Perusan, I disagree. I think it is important to keep the diversity in the existing sections. You can choose to interact with those you feel an affinity with.
     
  6. I agree that only total abstinence leads to sucess.

    But still, it is NOT hard.

    I had 7 weeks of success this year, and it was only because I was totally relaxed, I was following an overall plan, and I had made peace with myself.

    It was not "hard" at all, in fact it was very peaceful !
     
  7. IGY

    IGY Guest

    No, Freedomflight. Everyone knows it as hard mode because it is... er, well... hard. Freedom mode is a misnomer as hard mode is more restrictive.
     
  8. Hey IGY, but I am talking from my own experience !

    I had experienced total freedom for 7 weeks this year, the FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE THAT LONG.

    And the key factor was a change in my attitude: I stopped thinking like it is "hard", or that I need to "fight". None of that! I made peace with myself, and I made a master plan. Then everything else followed.
     
  9. monkotto

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    hi perusan,

    i have two goals...
    first 28 days hardmode (day 23 today)
    second 60 days PMOfree

    now to your question. i cant imagine how to do this with edging. this would never be possible for me.
    lots of guys are edging here.

    there was a time where i was masturbating once a week. that was not an addiction. i was able to control all my urges.

    but with access to internet and to all the pornstuff which is offered there - i developed to a pornjunkie. wasted more and more time in front of the screen. never collected stuff. just watched on the free websites.

    i am not a scientist but i am sure musturbating and watching porn belongs together. masturbating without porn is boring. there is missing something. porn disturbed my imagination of sexual thoughts. the thoughts are not normal any more because of all the hard stuff i watched.

    if i reach a point of healthiness where i can control my urges and i lost all the porn fantasies - then maybe i can masturbate again (without porn).
     
  10. I agree to one: I need to be abstinent of orgasms.

    Even if I have totally normal passionate sex with my girlfriend, and even when it's totally fulfilling and passionate and intimate, then during the following time, this leads to a PMO relapse every time.
     
  11. monkotto

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    i guess reaching this step is very nice.

    currently i am fighting like optimus prime against the decepticons.
     
  12. perusan

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    For me I believe you are fighting because you edge. For me edging is exactly the same as PMO, MO, M. Whether you deny yourself the final outburst or not, what you are doing is indulging your addiction and I believe you will never be free of it until you stop edging. The same goes for the "lots of guys ...edging here".

    That is my opinion of course. And I respect your 23 days whether they be truly hardmode or not. That is a greeat achievement. I don't claim to be right. I just know what has worked for me and personally I would prefer to be in a community with like-minded people.

    IGY I understand your point. It is just I am tired of filtering. It triggers me. I have to put up extra defences because I read about people who say that edging is acceptable, that M is the lesser of the PMO evil so it is okay to M so long as it isn't PMO. I am tired of being triggered by people whose attitude is that they can have the best of both worlds. To me that is the loudest thing my addiction says to me. Edge, it's okay, it isn't O, you haven't done anything wrong. M, it's okay, you are not looking at P. Fantasize, it's okay, the images are in your head, not on a screen. PMO! PMO! PMO! PMO!

    I want to help others, but I only believe there is one way to do that. No edge, no M, no PMO. I want to feel part of a community that believes that. And then, from that security, I feel it would be easier to evangelise to the non-converted.
     
  13. monkotto

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    no edging - i dont touch my little friend. i only edged one time (very short) without porn. wanted to see what happens. the urge to orgasm was so brute strong i had to stop immediately. afterwards never again.

    i am fighting because i have all the pictures in my head (all the pornstuff). they proceed in my head all the time.

    to your question: porn and masturbation is interwined - that is the right word for description.

    i am sure if i would look 5 minutes porn now i would fap like a maniac. without porn i can control the urge.
     
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2014
  14. FapWarrior

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    I totally agree, since I'm going hardcore mode.
     
  15. perusan

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    My apologise, otto. I didn't really understand what you were saying. Now I read it more carefully and slowly I see you are saying that for you recovering would be impossible if you edged.

    monkotto, you are a warrior. Good luck to you!
     
  16. monkotto

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    yes - it would be impossible with edging.

    no i am not a warrior - i am a monk!

    good luck to you perusan.
     
  17. IGY

    IGY Guest

    Hi perusan. I am a virgin in hard mode with no edging, masturbating or use of porn. The only sexual 'thing' is an occasional, nocturnal emission of semen (I don't even remember the erotic dream, thankfully). As you are triggered by the posts that articulate your addicted dialogue of rationalisation, I can understand why you started this thread. Personally, I am not triggered by others' views and I find the diversity instructive and enjoyable. I could join other groups or sections on here, but I like to interact in the main areas.

    Notwithstanding, you have my respect and good wishes for getting two thirds the way to your goal. That's good going!
     
  18. MelancholyWeightlifter

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    I do agree that the constant masturbation justification threads get annoying. That and the threads describing peoples sexual exploits.
     
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2014
  19. I like this idea. New forum Hard Mode will be coming shortly.
     
  20. monke

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    yes, only total bastinece indulge change
     

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