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Introduction & Journal

For Fapstronauts of the Catholic Christian Faith

  1. I would like to use my introduction post as my general journal. I plan on updating it at least once a week, likely on Sundays, or as needed.

    I am grateful for my time of abstinence. I am also grateful for the promises that I have made for the past two weeks and have been able to keep by God's grace. Two weeks ago I promised to return to the practice of praying Lauds. Last week I combined it with the promise to also pray Vespers. Some days this was not always done as well as could have, but it was done nonetheless. It is doing much good to my soul! The Words of Scripture never fail.

    This week I would like to focus on self-care, specifically in my relation to technology. I have fallen into the custom of watching videos and the like on my phone as I fall asleep and as soon as I wake up. Additionally, I have played video games to an excess, forsaking other more productive endeavors. Hence, for this week, I make the following three promises:
    • I will not use my phone/computer/Switch/etc. when in bed, whether it be at night or in the morning.
    • I will use a regular alarm to wake up so that I can let the bathroom be the charging station for my devices (and thus remove the temptation to reach out to them while on my bed).
    • I will once again add a time limit to my Switch. To this end, I will ask my brother today to help me set up a "Parental" time limit so that I can only play one hour during weekdays, two on Saturday and Sunday. Furthermore, I will ask him to change the password he set up (and then later revealed to me) so that I will not be able to add more time when playing.
    This will be a good start. It is doable objectively, though it will certainly be challenging subjectively due to bad habits. With God's grace I can persevere. His Will, not mine, be done.

    Onward unto God!
    Pax
     
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  2. CPilot

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    Sounds like a great start to a wonderful recovery. May God bless your efforts and reward you for sharing your journey and knowledge with us.
     
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  3. Thank you, CPilot! I am happy to report that it has already born fruit.

    My Switch now is limited to one hour a day of use Monday through Friday, two hours on Saturday and Sunday. I've reduced the cut off time to 10 PM whereas before it was 11 PM. And my brother has reset the password so that I cannot disable the Parental Features once I hit the limit. Maybe one day I won't need that last step, but, for now, it is what gives me a reasonable chance.

    I left my phone charging in the living room. When my lights automatically turned off at 11PM, I was able to accept it was time to sleep and close my eyes. Before I would have reached out to my phone, if I wasn't already using it. Then, when I woke up, I reached out to get my phone to watch some videos. It wasn't there. And because I wasn't there, I was able to pray Lauds as well as Matins, do my stretching exercises, clean my room, clean my bathroom, and do some chores around the house to help out. It felt natural and good. And all because when I reached out for my phone, it wasn't there!

    Sometimes little steps can produce enormous results. Having a consistent sleep schedule without the use of media is one of those small things for me. When that is in place, so many things fall into place automatically. And the great thing is that since now my room and bathroom are clean, getting them to that point will only be a few minutes rather than half an hour, leaving me with some more time for recovery work or actual exercise. Praise be to God!

    I feel better, more "manly," more in control of those things that God desires me to be in control of. And today, I also promise to abstain from PMO until Wednesday at 10PM. At that point, I may do as I wish without compromising this promise. May God give me the good sense to renew my holy desires, which are themselves gifts from Him.

    Finally, tomorrow I will see my Spiritual Director. I hope to go to Confession with him, after over a year of not having done so. I've had great reservations about making use of the Sacraments this last year. It is time I entrust those reservations to God. There is no fault in the Sacraments. They are God's holy works.

    Please keep me in your prayers, everyone. I will keep you in mine.

    Onward unto God!
    Pax
     
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  4. Mr Eko

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    I see you are creative in using promises. I used them too when I had the habit to go to sleep at 1 or 2 in the morning. I used them too when I spent too much time on the internet and when I was too much engaged in writing posts - I simply promised to not write them for a few days or a week. I use promises to do sport 3 times a week ( I'm too lazy to do it on a regular basis) - I remember that once I had to do a training at 1 in the morning because I forgot to do it on the previous day as I promised ( Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays) This ensured me to train very regularly ( of course when I'm ill or it happens something absolutely unexpected then I'm excused from the promise). Yes, promises can be a cure for our weak sometimes even destroyed will.
    If you do something realistic and really try to get rid from pmo then pmo acts ( as a sinful relief ) are not grave but venial ones ( untill the time when you have the ful control of will). I think you know about it - so practically even if you pmo on Wednesday you could go to Communion even without a following confession and the venial sins will be absolved in general confession at the beginning of the mass. If you hesitate you can talk about it with your confessor and treat his answer as the will of God. He may disagree because not all priests are of such opinion. In Poland most priests (especially younger ones) I talked about it during confession agreed about it.
    Nowadays I'm in full control of my sexual desires (not addicted) - so I mustn't use such an opportunity but some years ago I sometimes used such an approach. What's your opinion as a priest?
     
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  5. I am divided on the answer, I think in part because I hold that the manifestations of addiction can reveal both a disease and a moral issue. To the degree that a person is compromised in his capacity to think clearly and chose willingly, then it is to that degree culpability is reduced. And as mortal sin requires full knowledge and deliberate consent, then it is my view that it is certainly possible that a lapse in chastity could be, for a given person in a very specific circumstance, a venial, not a mortal, sin.

    Having said this, it is interesting that when the Catechism talks about the sins against chastity by means of masturbation, it mentions the following: "To form an equitable judgment about the subjects' moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety or other psychological or social factors that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability." (CCC 2352). I say it is interesting because it falls within the paragraph for masturbation and not lust in general, which is the preceding one.

    As I see it, this is not necessary mean that the same principle cannot apply as well to pornography. For some, the sin of masturbation is so tightly bound to the sin of pornography, that to engage in the former is to (almost?) automatically bring up the other, especially due to how much the internet is quasi omnipresent in our lives. In my case, I had people tell me, "At the very least, if you masturbate, then don't add to it pornography," which makes total sense--in theory. But in practice, my desire to masturbate puts me in such a reduced state of mind, that to not watch pornography simultaneously is, as far as I can tell, impossible. In my mind, it'd be like telling a person who struggles with alcoholism to stick to beer only and not add liquor when getting totally wasted. When the person is drunk, the capacity to do one without the other is gone, and I think that without having the addiction oneself, it is not easy to see how absurd this advice is practically speaking.

    Yet what also must be kept in mind is that, "Feigned ignorance and hardness of heart do not diminish, but rather increase, the voluntary character of a sin" (CCC 1859). Could it be that when it comes to PMO, a person rejects the necessary means to achieve and grow in chastity due to the hard work it requires, especially when it comes to self-will? I think so, for as the Catechism also states: "Self-mastery is a long and exacting work. One can never consider it acquired once and for all. It presupposes renewed effort at all stages of life. The effort required can be more intense in certain periods, such as when the personality is being formed during childhood and adolescence." (CCC 2342). So if a person should fall into PMO because he has resisted knowingly and willingly what he knows needs to be done "to stay sober"--prayer, exercise, healthy habits, whatever the case might be--then, to me, the answer as to whether it is mortal or venial is not so clear.

    So I think this brings up your condition that a person is really trying to rid himself of PMO in a realistic fashion. And as "[c]hastity has laws of growth which progress through stages marked by imperfection and too often by sin" (CCC 2343), it is possible that a person should fall into PMO not for lack of trying, but due to the initial ignorance of knowing what it is that must be practiced in other areas of one's life, or due to the great weakness that is present at the beginning of one's journey towards chastity, even if the means are coming more clearly into focus.

    Perhaps I am wrong, and the mitigated culpability mentioned in 2352 for masturbation is not to be applied to the sin of pornography mentioned in 2354 also. What I can tell you is that in practice, as a priest, I was ordained with a fully blown out PMO addiction. This meant that I could go to confession by morning and be back at it before the end of the day. And as other priests were far away, daily confession before Mass was not possible. Yet saying Mass daily was required out of justice. Hence, I was advised (a) not to make an extra effort to confess it during the week as trying to do so was making my life even further unmanageable, (b) to bring it up only during my regularly scheduled confessions, and (c) to think of my lapses into PMO as venial sins only. Now whether the last part was actually true or not, I do not know. All I know that to be acting out PMO almost constantly while also trying to celebrate the Sacraments daily in such a way as described above was torture. A person may not be culpable for drinking a glass of poison, yet its deadly effects remain in place nonetheless...

    I think, for me, it will be better moving forward to abstain from Communion after engaging in PMO rather than receiving. There is grace to be received also in spiritual acts of communion, from the hearing of God's Word attentively during the first part of Mass, from all the prayers that are said as a Body all throughout, and from the blessing that is received at the end by all from the priest. To be able to go to Mass and not HAVE to receive has been an invaluable blessing. It is why I resist the idea of ever having to be in a position where a constant celebrations of the Sacraments is expected. I hope I never find myself in that Hell hole again!

    But my capacity to think clearly on this matter may be affected as well. So I'll just let all of that go, and focus on today. By God's grace may I stay healthy. By God's grace, may I remain in His merciful embrace.

    Pax
     
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  6. Mr Eko

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    There are pro and cons. Maybe the conscience of a person should decide provided the person gets enough knowledge what Catholic Church teaches on it. I mean genuine efforts to get rid off pmo because if somebody used the possibility to go to Communion even after pmo and wouldn't hard enough tried to rid off pmo then it would be only an excuse how to injoy pmo without commiting a grave sin. It would be a grave sin - a cold cunning calculation.
    The same with the possibility of Communion for the divorced living without celibacy in following relationships - in these cases decides the conscience of the devorced after consultations with the priest to consider their unique situation. Of course local churches have the voice too - in Poland there is no such possibility - but it's all according to ,,Amoris Letitia'' .

    Let's take this ''deliberate consent'' and ''choosing willingly'' as a condition for a grave sin. It's not enough to ''deliberately consent'' and ''choose willingly'' because we were never in a situation that somebody threatened us with a gun saying either you do it or ... . It must be a FULL deliberate consent and FULL freedom to choose. How can an addict have a full freedom of choice? If he had then he wouldn't be an addict - isn't it logical? And now practical - after some shorter or longer sober period one day ( or suddently in one minute) you get an urge / series of urges or a train of weaker and stroger temptations. After some minutes or hours or days of fighting your life consist of pain, you are weary, you want to experience some relief.... do you make FULL deliberate consent if you break into pmo or your consent was extorted, forced by your hurt emotions, addiction etc. Let's look at addicted people - their childhood stories - destroyed famiies, alcoholism there, traumas ...and the resulting sick personality and the only means they know to 'medicate' the unbearable state - their addiction. How FULL is their deliberate consent? It's of course not full and when not full then it lacks one condition to make the sin a grave one. Of course if they do nothing to get rid off pmo (the state of hopelessness - dispair - they don't even trust that God can change something then they are in grave sins too - grave sins rather because they lost all hope.
    So - one's conscience desides if it's a venial or grave sin. One must form their conscience of course - this is a condition too.
    Some people who regard all their pmo as a grave sin can fall into a trap. That is - after they pmo-ed they think that they are without any grace so untill the next confession they can pmo anew. Secondly , after they pmo-ed they cease praying and making efforts because they are convinced that they won't have enough support from God to resist following temptations and they dive into pmo acts untill they confess and regain the graces (power) but if they regarded the pmo acts as venial ones (of course providing that they really try to get rid of them) then they would be able to continue their fight immediatelly after pmo-ing - knowing that they hadn't lost the state of grace.

    This is my personal view - Let your conscience decide.
     
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  7. CPilot

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    Perhaps in our case, that is a situation where we have a good foundation of knowledge in our faith, (although both of you are far more knowledgable than I) the distinction between venial sin and mortal sin is a secondary concern. Indeed, over analysis of this question could cause one to think more frequently about the sin itself and thus lead to temptation if we are in a vulnerable state.
    I have no experience of being a priest but I have an inkling of the pain the father feels when performing the sacraments while in a state of serious sin. I had to refrain from attending regular confession when I was particularly struggling with this addiction because the feelings of freedom immediately after confession seemed to fuel my relapses and this insidious cycle fueled my guilt and feelings of unworthiness and despair for God's forgiveness. I can imagine how such feelings of vast separation from God and despair at being forgiven would be magnified for a priest. Of course this is the devil at work. Doubt, despair and diffidence are all snares employed by the devil and we are called to use our intellect to eschew them even though our emotions propel us otherwise.
     
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  8. Mr Eko

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    CPilot - it's of no meaning how much one knows theology, the Bible etc. What counts is how much one uses this knowlegde in their life. The knowledge alone is only a potential - it's like a soldier who having an atomic bomb uses only his blunt knife or wooden stick protecting himself from the gang of murderers. Or like somebody who read all manual for a new TV set but what they use every day is to turn on and off the set plus icreasing and lowering the volume.
     
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  9. Keli

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    [QUOTE = "CPilot, post: 3059179, member: 420461"] los sentimientos de libertad inmediatamente después de la confesión parecían alimentar mis recaídas [/ QUOTE]
    A mi me pasa al revés .. cuando caigo debo confesarme inmediatamente porque de lo contrario sigo cayendo hasta poder ir a confesion .. quizas porque pienso "ya que tendré q ir a confesarme ya seguire cayendo" claro es una gran trampa del enemigo. Creo q solo las 2 ultimas veces no he tenido esos pensamientos ..
    Por otro lado creo q el confesarme me da fuerza ya sea psicológicamente o por la fe para resistir y no seguir cayendo los proximos dias ..
     
  10. Having gone to a treatment facility for sex addiction, it is amazing how much hurt there can be behind an addiction. It allows for compassion, even self-compassion, to see perhaps for the first time the many crosses one has been bearing, even unknowingly. Addiction can then be like a crutch to help one with the weight of it all--and perhaps, for a while, it seems to work, providing a distraction from all the chaos and pain. Yet, of course, it is empty and cannot hold. Here is where the recovery work begins -- to help build up resilience through healthy and God-oriented means. The force of habit though is no small matter! I far underestimated in my case how much it would fight back.

    I was leaning in this direction also, especially where due to my OCD I can dissect and further dissect a question or situation until I lose all peace of mind. "Maybe it's a venial sin if one just watches a little bit, but a mortal if one does it for hours? But then this would disregard the state of mind that makes tunnel vision such a paralyzing reality. Then maybe length of viewing doesn't determine? Yet perhaps if considered from this other angle..." so on and so forth as the day passes me by, with all of the beautiful possibilities to create new memories and closeness to God and others. This is why I find the advise from the Spiritual Combat so helpful in acknowledging sin on the spot. After doing so, don't wonder whether you did it right, or whether you were forgiven -- these are distractions. Just "forget about it" and move on.

    Esto es lo ideal. Que hermosa gracia es encontrar nueva fuerza gracias a los Sacramentos.
     
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  11. Yesterday and today I was faithful to my promise to not use my phone/any media playing devices while in bed. I feel the need for stimulus as soon as my head hits the pillow. There are so classics I'd like to get back to, but, for now, to make the transition less jarring, I am choosing to read comic books. The visual "pow-pow-BOOM!" provides a bit of what I was getting before, while moving me in a calmer, more reading focused direction. My goal is to move on to novels next week.

    This morning I was able to have a prayerful, quite, productive time, again thanks to the fact I am not able to reach out for my phone first thing in the morning. I am now saying Matins again and doing so right before Lauds, not because I promised it, but because it feels... natural and right. Also, I took the extra time I had to do some basic grooming, which I tend to let go of when in addiction. I am grateful!

    Today I also renew my earlier promise to not engage in PMO until Wednesday at 10pm. I also include in this not purposely engaging in more voyeuristic behaviors--i.e., sitting at a particular table when at the coffee shop to more easily lust after particular women. Doing so is, for me, pornographic in nature, and thus a relapse. It's not the same thing, of course, as suddenly realizing there is someone very attractive walking by, and then having to use tools to disengage the situation. That is naturally to be expected and part of the growth towards self-mastery. May God, the Source of All Beauty--help me in those moments also to find what I'm looking for in Him.

    I also want to take a moment to surrender anxieties about the future and fears concerning the present. It's all in God's hands, and I am doing what I think is His will today. That's all that matters.

    Onward unto God!
    Pax
     
  12. Day 3 of using my nights and mornings differently. Reached out twice in my wake up state for the phone and it wasn't there. I crave novelty constantly. I find myself, for example, checking this forum to see if there are new messages throughout the day. Dopamine wants its excitement! Learning to be content with "boring" is something for which I must strive.

    Some desires have come up to fantasize, lust. I surrender them to God's Mercy. And by His grace, I had a victory at a coffee shop when I felt the urge to sit somewhere based on where someone else was sitting at. I ignored it and redirected that desire.

    My heart is a bit heavy. Found out some news that are very much bitter sweet. I surrender it and ask God for the grace of acceptance.

    Hope you all have a beautiful, sober, sane, and holy day!

    Onward unto God!
    Pax
     
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  13. Mr Eko

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    My best way to fight my uncontrolled excitement, craving, impatience, etc. is to start praying with the intention of focusing my attention on God, ignoring the impulses of excitement. My mind always sees the prospect of prayer as completely boring, but when I really start praying and try to bend my mind on God, the fire of excitement is extinguished with water. Uncontrolled desires must be taught to go to a corner and sit down. But how to do it - in my case only prayer (God) works, because my own nervous system is like a puppet on a string manipulated by the desire overlord.
     
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  14. Like clockwork, I had a relapse two days ago at the 14 day mark -- same as my previous streak before then. I was so concerned I might psychologically trap myself into acting out, so I wasn't even keeping track of days. It's just something I realized when I looked again at the counter to reset it.

    I recommit to my sobriety, making a promise to stay sober until noon this day.

    Onward unto God!
    Pax
     
  15. I also want to check in that last night I had one of my recurring dreams. I dreamt that I was getting married to the person I dated for three years in real life, but her annulment to her current marriage in the dream world was never requested. Then I realized also that my request to be returned to the lay state had also never been submitted. Hence, the marriage had to be cancelled. This is a dream that I've had literally hundreds of times throughout the last 12+ years with some variations. We are about to become united in marriage, but something, or someone, intervenes - whether it be her getting married, or her entering religious life, or me becoming a priest, or her dad not approving and showing up on horseback to stop it all... It used to be multiple times a week, almost daily in my seminary days, but now it's every once in a while. My more current recurring dream is that of being back in ministry, and finding myself in that "trap" once again. This is the dream that is happening multiple times a week now. Not even in my dreams can I find relief from OCD!

    I trust it will get better. It is something I will bring up to my OCD specialist. There has been so much to cover, that I haven't had a chance to bring these recurring dreams up! The pain from unrequited/frustrated human love and the fear of becoming trapped in a spiritual hell due to ecclesial obedience appear to be very much deeply ingrained in my psyche. May God grant healing and peace.
     
  16. Mr Eko

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    To give you some thought
    In Poland there is an old saying ,,it's better everywhere where we are not'' and the second one - '' the better is an enemy of the good''. If you analyse how many pmo addicts are married on every anti-pmo site like then you get to know that the percentage is really high. Where lies the difference between being a single addict and being a married / or in any relationship one? This you can read in the testimonies of wives / girlfriends of them. They are so devastated and their family life is so disturbed (their children have no father or at the most a 'half' father) and the marriage often ends in divorce.

    Getting married doesn't heal pmo addiction , the same with alcohol addiction and any other bad habits. Any addiction, bad habit is a dynamite which explodes the marriage and family. An addict is a mentally and emotionally sick person and marriage is for mental healthy ones. Nowadays everybody can get married who it wishes but look at the rates: in the US - what is the percentage of children living in a full family? What is the percentage of single mothers?
    ,,it's better everywhere where we are not'' is a trap for many. Many drop their jobs to find a much worse one etc.
    This is not a sport. A long streak without recovery leads only to a binge and when it repeats then the result is long depression without any fight so staying much longer time in pmo mode. We are not to break our records but to recover. Breaking records will come as a result of our recovery but without recovery it's only an abstinence period. The great question is what is recovery in reality. What to do day after day, hour after hour to be recovering?
    I don't leave this question as a retorical one.
    Recovery of our mind, emotions, will .... of our heart meant as the Jews understand it in the Bible (heart - 'libbe' = all inner man = thoughts, emotions, decisions of the will = soul ).

    The recovery is happening ONLY when we are in an aware contact with God = prayer.
    Prayer without this awareness of the presence of God is not a prayer but some 'holy words' recitation so the result there is no recovery. What we should (rather must) do is our daily work on our way of prayer and frequency of prayer - always regarding that not the emount of prayer but its quality counts.
    If we learned to pray ( aware staying in God's presence) good enough then we wouldn't need any therapists.
    This is my personal point of view but I have absolutely no hesitation that it's the only truth.
     
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  17. I wholeheartedly agree that marriage is not the solution. I've been to many treatment/recovery centers and 12 Step groups to know that such is the case, and that, at times, entering into marriage has only made everything more unmanageable. The fact that it keeps coming up in my dreams, like a hiccup, leads me to believe it is an almost a-rational belief/desire/frustration/wound/etc. buried deep within my heart. At the very least, I do not wake up with the same I used to when having the dreams about marriage. It was like relieving the deep pain I felt after the break up of that relationship after three years. Looking back, I am certain that there was much mutual "co-dependencies," to put it in modern terms, and that a lot of immoderate/unhealthy binding took place as a result. And yes, "the grass is always greener on the other side," as we say in the US!

    I agree, which is why I wasn't even keeping up with "sobriety days." The fact that my relapses keep happening at the two week mark is just a data point.
     
  18. Mr Eko

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    But... if you wanted to break this magical boundary of 2 weeks to convince oneself that there is not something fatal that controls you then you could do so: After you have reached the wall of 14 days some day you can take a special promise ( not to pmo / do all possible to back it / to start praying every time the temptation comes and do so untill it finishes ) for one day (24 hours). This will give you an effective help to break the fatal wall reaching 15 days. After that you'll be free to pmo or not.
    And then you will know that having broken the magical boundary the next ones will be crossed too. Sometimes it's good to break one's own impossibility.
    Why is this possible? Because of this: "I am able to do all things in Him who strengthens me." Philippians 4:13
    When we are in prayer are we not in Him?
     
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    Hi Father Joseph, I was reading your story, and I just wanted to thank you for sharing your fight with us. I can't imagine how hard it was (and is) to let your brothers and sisters in Christ know your struggle with sex addiction. I can't imagine the dark thoughts that you MAY had experienced to keep silent about this issue because the enemy attacks with what he has at his disposal. If you had, maybe you hadn't, don't feel awful, my brother. For the fact that you have opened and tell the truth, I can tell that the Holy Spirit is giving you the grace to overcome this demon. God certainly will not abandon you. He'll give you the TOOLS to combat and not be helpless at the hand of satan. We are at different places, but you'll notice the graces that the Trinitarian God, the Lord of the Armies, will or frankly already has poured upon you.

    "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not rely on your own insight. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths."
    Proverbs 3:5–6
     
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    'Betah el Adonai behol libbeha vel binateha al tishaen.'
     
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