Masturbation

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by bd123, Jun 3, 2023.

  1. bd123

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    If I touch myself masturbate but don't cum ejaculate or orgasm is that considered as a relapse?
     
  2. Spiritual Immunity

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    yes its called edging and its worse than a relapse.
     
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  3. The question here is whether or not this is a habit, or a single random occurrence. Maybe he just found himself in a situation and the circumstances were such that he just had a momentary lapse of judgement. For me a relapse would indicate a mindset issue rather than a slip of the wrist.

    I don't think anyone is immune from the wrong place wrong time potential for a weak moment. Otherwise, we would all be in full control and not need to be here talking about it.
     
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  4. hantyumi

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    Nofap is for beginners
     
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  5. Magic Bullets

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  6. ShutOffValve

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    Exactly, many of us did Nofap for a few years, and then discovered Semen Retention gave us 10X the benefits of Nofap!!!
     
  7. Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    Masturbation
    ˌma-stər-ˈbā-shən:

    erotic stimulation especially of one's own genital organs commonly resulting in orgasm and achieved by manual or other bodily contact exclusive of sexual intercourse, by instrumental manipulation, occasionally by sexual fantasies, or by various combinations of these agencies

    The lesson:

    Could be someone else's parts. No orgasm is necessary. Sexual fantasies are optional. Use of objects, including toys or hands. Any of these aspects used either individually or collectively.

    Question answered. Some will be happy with that because they will think the dictionary is inspired of God now. Probably at 100% at the moment.

    But for those same people, the bible is not.

    It could be that along the way that over the centuries, some have taken the dictionary and manipulated it so that we would stop masturbating.

    Love how a book written by men could be deemed 100% accurate. Oh my God, who would doubt the dictionary?

    How do you know that false Christians changed things in there and now we read it and now it's not true?

    I'm confused. We talking about the dictionary or the bible? Lol.
     
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  8. In the name of the Merriam, the Webster, and the Holy spirit.
     
  9. Yes I Can Man

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    If you did not ejaculate then you are still on SR right?
     
  10. NewJohnQ

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    If you are edging you may still be retaining semen, but you’re fucking up your brain chemistry.
     
  11. Magic Bullets

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    I agree you still haven't broken your streak, it does make it pretty difficult.
     
  12. Spiritual Immunity

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    We should really talk about edging guys cuz it’s a big big problem.
     
  13. Icewarrior

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    Masturbation: from the Latin words manstuprare, from manus “hand” (as in manual) + stupare “defile (oneself), from stuprum “defilement, dishonor,” related to stupere “to be stunned, stupefied (as in stupid)
     
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  14. Yes I Can Man

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    As in what? Without watching porn? Do you lose any benefits?
     
  15. NewJohnQ

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    For me, I lose the confidence, the alpha state. Edging floods your brain with dopamine, feel good chemical. It feeds the addiction.
     
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  16. Yes I Can Man

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    I thought as long as you retain semen you have the benefits?
     
  17. Icewarrior

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    The retained semen has to be transmuted. If it isn't transmuted then it will, at some point, seek an outlet through pmo etc. If we edge we are still burning up sexual energy. Those pleasurable sensations need fuel. That fuel is our life essence.
     
  18. Yes I Can Man

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    Are there different types of edging?
     
  19. Icewarrior

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    Not as far as I'm aware of! If we use sexual energy for selfish, lustful purposes then we slowly burn up our life essence, so masturbation is out of the question. However, making love with our beloved with the intent to transmute, to give, not to take only for our own selfish pleasure means the life essence isn't burnt up.
     
  20. Magic Bullets

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