P or MO: which is the bigger issue?

[swissarmyknight]

It seems like when I'm doing well not looking for/at P, I'm having a much harder time with MO, and vice versa.

Which is the more difficult to resist for you? What helps you not do it?

 

[Fallacious D]

MO for me. I have to get rid of all 3 to be successful

 

[Deleted Account]

For myself P and M must go while O is permitted but only if I'm married.

I've found MO to be the more difficult thing to resist in this process.

 

[MHero]

For me the most difficult thing to resist id porn's novelty, Porn leads to Masturbation then Orgasm. If you abstain from porn you can deal with masturbation easily.
So P is the main issue here.

 

[Deleted Account]

I don't want to masturbate.


But I don't seem to get over it.

 

[Deleted Account]

I'd say P because it's so unnatural and can fuck up you and the pornstar for life, it's just on a whole another level

 

[Ashen One]

P for sure.

 

[blacklabel92]

P because it puts you in the spectator seat and ur subconsciously telling urself that ur not worthy of sex.

 

[vercent99]

i dont masturbate without porn
no porn = no masturbation for me
so porn is the root cause

although, in the past i did masturbate without requiring porn, but that was years ago. As of right now, my masturbation relies on porn. I can watch porn without masturbating, but not the other way around, i have to force myself to do that if i want to try.

 

[Cpt Morgan]

Definitely P because it gives you a false impression about sex and it makes you feel that you're worthless and never capable of getting what you're seeing in the video (truth being that no normal sexual encounter would play out like in the video)..

 

[swissarmyknight]

Thanks for all the feedback

MO for me. I have to get rid of all 3 to be successful

For me, MO is probably the most destructive in regards to my mental state. If I look at P but there isn't any MO, I can usually move on with a more self-forgiving attitude. However when it escalates to MO, I can expect a hoard of horrible thoughts and self loathing. "How could I be so stupid?"

I don't want to masturbate.


But I don't seem to get over it.

Stay strong, and feel free to reach out to me.

I'd say P because it's so unnatural and can fuck up you and the pornstar for life, it's just on a whole another level

P because it puts you in the spectator seat and ur subconsciously telling urself that ur not worthy of sex.

Definitely P because it gives you a false impression about sex and it makes you feel that you're worthless and never capable of getting what you're seeing in the video (truth being that no normal sexual encounter would play out like in the video)..

I agree with your thoughts on P being such an unnatural thing. It IS natural to be aroused by sex, sensuality, and other people we find attractive, but the overflow of dopamine in the brain as a result of watching P makes us feel like we had sex ourselves without doing anything to work for it; that is the unnatural part.

 

[swissarmyknight]

i dont masturbate without porn
no porn = no masturbation for me
so porn is the root cause

although, in the past i did masturbate without requiring porn, but that was years ago. As of right now, my masturbation relies on porn. I can watch porn without masturbating, but not the other way around, i have to force myself to do that if i want to try.

I get what you mean. I usually end up recalling memories of P to fuel fantasies, which can lead to MO (though I technically never watched P). P on the other hand, almost always escalates to MO. They're both extremely powerful.

 

[swissarmyknight]

For me the most difficult thing to resist id porn's novelty, Porn leads to Masturbation then Orgasm. If you abstain from porn you can deal with masturbation easily.
So P is the main issue here.

The novelty is certainly a draw for me. I would feel ridiculous asking my partner to do any of the stuff that happens in P (and honestly I find it mostly annoying and overall unattractive to me) but I don't have to because someone has made a video of it.

 

[MHero]

I would feel ridiculous asking my partner to do any of the stuff that happens in P

I would feel the same too. P is far from reality, this is what I think, though I don't have any experience.
"The addicted me" would want something similar to P which It's a very selfish thing to ask. Well, all I want is peace and freedom.