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Please stop demanding regular and bachelor's degrees for the jobs!

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Taylor25, Jun 25, 2021.

  1. Taylor25

    Taylor25 Fapstronaut

    As someone who is struggling to save up enough money to go on international travel, looking at job listings is so depressing.

    Before the 2008 financial crisis started, it used to be that most people only had their high school diplomas, and university degrees were uncommon. Now the opposite is true - most people are going on to post-secondary education. It just seems odd that when I go on job boards to look at the hiring companies that most entry-level (right out of high school) jobs I see (bookkeeping, computer programming, nuclear plant operator, etc.) paying around $40k to $80k per year require either a 2 or 4-year degree. Employers are going to prefer candidates with a degree than those without, with all else being equal because it is easy to find someone with a degree nowadays. If you want to be competitive in today's market, it's worth looking at a degree.

    This is one of the results of a high school diploma becoming academically and functionally meaningless. A 2 or 4-year degree is the new high school diploma.

    Let's be real, earning a degree doesn't prove you are smart or get freedom.
  2. Job requirements are just wish lists for a company
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  3. BalancedLife

    BalancedLife Fapstronaut

    You'd be surprised to know how much some specialized technicians with vocational training can earn, even without a degree.

    As the number of people with degrees increases, their worth decreases: it's a simple supply and demand type of thing, coupled with the fact that monkey jobs are no longer needed in the developed world. When my uncle got his first job as a bank clerk with a high-school diploma in 1984, he was getting the same money (adjusted for inflation, obviously) that I got at my first job, which required a master's degree.

    Then again, there is always the self-employed way, but you have to be willing to put in the time, effort and the skills.
  4. Atticus

    Atticus Fapstronaut

    Wagie, Wagie, get in cagie.

    Horrifying reality aside, I remember reading an ad (hopefully a fake one) for an internship with a requirement of 2 years + a bachelors degree. :emoji_upside_down:
  5. Mr.Tony

    Mr.Tony Fapstronaut

    Personally i think thay the combination between: Exceptional Skills and The Degree is the best thing to have.

    Also it is easy to get a degree if you are willing to do so.

    I'm 27, And i Had two bachelor degrees from different fields and different universities when i was only 25.

    Right now i'm about to finish my MBA.
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  6. Trobone

    Trobone Fapstronaut

    University degrees were not uncommon in 2008.

    And are you really shocked that they want accountants, programmers and NUCLEAR PLANT OPERATORS to have advanced degrees?
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  7. Taylor25

    Taylor25 Fapstronaut

    Accounting does require a bachelor's degree. Some computer programming does, I kind of understand. Nuclear plant operating does not.

  8. I work myself, and to get ahead, even I need to get a masters. Go figure!?

    Currently doing an online Masters in Pysch and there are students from all over the world attending.

    Another issue of course is the quality of the degree you're you're getting. A lot of people (possibly myself to be included) have pretty low passes and not from the best institutions.

    Just because someone has a few Msc's doesn't necessarily mean they are intelligent, or knowledgable...

    Life skills and EQ are extremely important too!
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  9. Please elaborate. Would love to hear more...

  10. Great spiel brother. Great spiel.

    Here's another, simpler way of saying it: it's all about the exchange of energy.
  11. gsherman100

    gsherman100 Fapstronaut

    I was about to say something along those lines. 90 percent of people who go through college are only able to do so buy taking student loans which is another way of saying "government funded" by most likely money they just printed up from thier ass and boom right out of high school you are in debt.

    Its degree inflation by literal inflation. It's so fucking gross really.
  12. I think your main problem is porn.
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  13. ThePeakWae

    ThePeakWae Fapstronaut

    None, of those things really need degrees for, if you are willing to learn them by yourself, get to know each in 20 hours, then make some aditional learnings then apply to a job with them as requirements anyway, if they refuse, freelancing and then reapplying and tell on the interview what you do will get you a job, if they fear the competition possibilities, honestly you'll have to improvise
  14. Galaxy7777

    Galaxy7777 Fapstronaut

    Totally understand you, I finished high school years ago and decided to go to university to get a degree, the course is so hard it's been now 4 years I have been into it(it's a 2,5 years course), I have lagged because I get unmotivated by knowing I have no experience in what I'm studying as I haven't had an opportunity for work, and if I do manage to finish there will be 1000 that did already too and many with better skills at it than me, I truly don't know what to do, it's like I'm in the end of a road.

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