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Relationship ended because of PMO

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by Mimi V, Feb 11, 2021.

  1. Mimi V

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    Hi everyone, I just signed today but I was already reading before.This will be a long text, so thanks to everyone who will have the patience to read it and I really hope that you can help me with opinions on my story because I really feel bad about it.
    We broke up with my boyfriend few days ago because of his P consumption. We were few months together and I knew about him watching P from the beginning. This makes it maybe not so bad like in other relationships where it was a secret long time but anyway. Before we had that conversation that he watches P I was already thinking that he does because "everybody does it" (I almost hate this statement). In that conversation he said that he likes to wacht solo women (he also wathes other kinds of P). I felt so bad about it because I find it something very personal, like if he has a particular interest in that woman while watching other kind of P I could somehow "justify". I remember how bad I felt the day after that, I almost wanted to cry but at that time I was thinking that it's not my right to tell him "Stop watching P"...
    I somehow tried not to think about it so much and this worked most of the time but then I started to think more and more about him PMOs and I was feeling very sad and hurted. I was imaging him PMOs the whole time...We had a sort of a long distance relationship and I saw eachother on the weekends. So during the week he was always PMO (I know that from him). We always had sex on the weekends and he even said one time that he doesn't even think about P when we are together. The last weeks before we broke up he had some ED and O issues while at the beginning this was not a problem. Sometimes we had conversations about sex etc. and his opinion was that in a relationship both should have there own sexuality and this should not be only referred to the partner. Kind of his PMO is something normal. Well, what does P have to do with sexuality? What is your opinion on this point?
    We also had the topic webcam girls and initially he said that he was doing this before our relationship started. Well, one day I simply asked him if he did that also during our time together and yes, he did it. I was destroyed at that point. My first reaction was to quit the relationship but then I decided to give it another chance if he at least stops watching webcams. He said that for him webcams and P are the same thing, but that he can do it. But since that day the things went worse for me. Even if I tried not to think about it I couldn't stop, especially when we were not together during the week.
    He has some depression issues during the winter (always had that) and told me that in the winter period he doesn't have much interest in sex and I was ok with it...until the day when I saw on his computer that he was watching P. This is where the end began. I felt extremely bad and cried many times. I also started to inform myself about P consumption and one day came to the conclusion that I don't want to accept his P consumption anymore (Years ago I've also done PMO but at some point I started to be more critical about it because I noticed that it can be like an addiction. I couldn't enjoy sex so much because I was missing that visual stimulation, had too many expectations because of P and was somehow not satisfied with sex. So I decided to stop watching. Now, after reading science etc. about P I have the confirmation about what I was already thinking on my own). He sometimes said to me that he PMOs when he is stressed in order to relax. He also has BPD (Borderline) and says that his PMO has something to do with that and that he doesn't always PMO because he is horny but just to relax. Any thoughts on this?
    So I said my boyfriend that I want to break up if he doesn't stop. His first reaction was defensive and he tried to say that the problem is my jealousy (he had the same situation with his ex, he was PMOing and she was jealous). I sent him some information but I don't know if he will read it. Maybe my approach was not so good because I feel very hurted and angry about him but even if we stayed together and he quits PMO I couldn't trust him anymore, especially because it's seems to me that he doesn' think to have a problem. It makes me also very angry that he says I'm too jealous but he never reflected his PMO behavior and how this affects our relationship, like it's my fault and my problem that I feel bad (I do have issues with jealousy but I can't agree that I should work on it and he not on his PMO) and that many other relationships do well even if the man PMOs. I think it's because the female part often doesn't know about her partner's PMO. So we broke up. I can't accept this situation anymore. I sometimes even hate sex because I connect it with P and something negative (I dont actually hate sex at all). I'm sorry that he doesn't want to "wake up". Well that's my point of view of the situation, I think his opinion may not be the same.
    I wonder if there is something wrong with me that I don't want a partner who PMOs? Will I have to stay single forever because "every man does it"? This makes me very sad. At the same time I'm so happy that there is a raising awareness about this problem and that many men want to quit PMO.
    Thank you everyone, your comments are much appreciated:)
     
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  2. Pizzer

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    Firstly, you can't blame yourself for this, an addicted man is a selfish one and we often don't see what we're doing to our partners, it's not your fault.

    I think you did the right thing in passing along information on what P does to us, if he has any semblance of love or feelings for you, he'll read through it and take it seriously. The fact that he had another GF that would complain about the same thing isn't very encouraging though, perhaps you're both young and he's too naive to see the damage he's doing right now.

    I guess you'll just have to wait and see, I would definitely take some space for yourself and work on you, things may not work out and it's not worth hedging your bets on a relationship that doesn't sound very strong to begin with.
     
  3. Mimi V

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    Thank you for your reply. It was important for me to hear other opinions because I don't really have someone to share my thoughts.
    He is 40 and PMOs since many years. As his ex girlfriend found out about his PMO he asked him to stop. He told me that it was difficult for him and that he was still MO on pictures which is for me similar to P and after all he was lying to his ex.
     
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  4. Psalm27:1my light

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    He won’t stop. You deserve much, much better. He is an addict and doesn’t want to stop, not every man does it. You can find a partner who isn’t a porn addict. Run away, while you still can without to many encumbrances. The statistics on addiction recovery isn’t great and for this addiction it’s even worse. That’s IF they are trying to get into recovery and it doesn’t sound like he is there yet. Save yourself a lot of pain. He’s already lost one relationship, so I’m not sure what will make him wake up.
     
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  5. p1n1983

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    Not everybody does it... but 90% of man does it. Some are addicts, some maybe does it a couple of times a week and others just occasioanlly.

    You are correct, is his choice to do porn or not.

    He was clearly saying that porn was ok for him. He can't be more honest about it.

    Did he asked and worked to get another chance or you were the one wanting to give him another chance because you were kind of attached of him and didn't wanted to let him go?

    Again, pure honesty from his part.

    Of course, for you Porn and webcams are not ok. For you that is not acceptable in a relationship with you and you can avoid to suffer from it.

    This was the rigth conclusion, if porn and webcams are not ok for you.. then you don't have to accept that behavior from his part.

    Hugh red flag.. go and look for a man that have his shit together.

    This is not the way to do it. This is a treat, you don't go and treat people to make them behave the way you like them to behave. You should just accept the fact that he is not meant for you and communicate that you are no longer together because you cannot accept his porn consumtion. If he decide that consuming porn is more important than having a relationship with you then is his choice.

    Everybody that is attacked, is going to get defensive. One strategy is to blame the other person or deviate the focus of the conversation. He is trying to make porn not a big deal for you, to make you change your view of porn. Basically he is traying to keep both, you and porn.

    He is into porn.. maybe he can give up porn a few months for you but if for some reason you are not having a great moment as a couple he is probably going to consume porn again.

    He does not. He think that porn and webcams are ok, he was straigth about it.

    The only fault you have here is that you are with a guy that is into porn when you don't want that.

    he is rigth with this. There are woman that are OK with porn or are into it. But you are not Ok with it so is imposible for you to have a fullfilling relationship with a person that do porn.

    Go for you. congratulations. It was the best you can do in this situation.

    Is his problem, not yours.

    Naah. there are man that don't consume porn, unfortunatetly the mayority of them do but.. well.. it will take time but you will eventually fine one.
     
  6. Mimi V

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    I think you are right. I feel a kind of release after this decision but in the same time I still ask myself if I did the right thing.
     
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  7. Mimi V

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    This doesn't sound like a good news for me :D Occasional use is maybe something that I could accept but I'm still not sure.

    It was me. The day after I broke up I had many thoughts like if webcam can be a reason to quit a relationship and that everyone deserve a second chance but with the time I noticed that I can't stop thinking about it, that he did that in our relationship. I will have a hard time to forgive him and because he didn't tell me about that from the beginning I couldn't trust him anymore. So even if he will never do that again I simply can't trust him. I now think I should have done that back then and not wait till now but for me it's still better like this than to wait for years for a change (which will maybe never happen).

    I didn't warn him or so. I just told him that I don't want to accept this anymore and he got what I mean. He agreed that it's better to quit the relationship because even if he quits P I will never trust him. In my opinion he simply doesn't want to do something about his PMO.

    I had relationships like this and at that time it was not such a problem for me but in my last two relationships it is getting worse. I can't explain that to me.
     
  8. from2003

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    You can do it buddy just don't ever give up :)
     
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  9. Chefb87

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    You did the right thing Mimi! If this is something that makes you uncomfortable in the relationship, then this isn't the relationship for you. You should be proud of the fact that you put in, and stood up for your boundaries. :)
     
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  10. Mimi V

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    Thank you. I do think it was the right decision but at the same time I ask myself if it's wrong from me to not accept him the way he is (with his PMO) and I somehow blame myself about this.
     
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  11. Pizzer

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    Again, stop blaming yourself, it's his problem and he seems to not want to fix it.

    You absolutely did the right thing.
     
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  12. RedeemedIowan

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    Yeah there are some positives to take away:

    1. Thank God you are not married to him. Given his attitude it’s impossible that he will change and imagine being tied to this man via marriage. He sounds like he cares way more about himself than you.

    2. I’m glad he was honest though. I’m also glad you were honest. Maybe if enough girl break up with him he’ll open his eyes. However his turnaround probably won’t come soon.
     
  13. Mimi V

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    It's so unfair and frustrating that he can't see what he's doing to him and what he did to me. I can immagine to be the crazy woman who is against P in his eyes because you know "PMO is something normal" but I guess I can't do anything about it...
     
  14. Chefb87

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    I get where you're coming from.. but no one should have to change who they are for someone else. You feel uncomfortable, unsafe , not good enough because of his PMO. I'm not sure if he's doing this , and if he is in sure he isn't aware of it . But addicts like to manipulate the other person. ( I should know , I used to alot). So you may feel like it's your fault by the things he may say or act . But I promise you. None of this is your fault. It is so strong of you to break it off. Be gentle with yourself. :)
     
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    Yeah it is sad that he can see what he's doing. And it's sad that he's justifying it saying things like " everyone does this " I remember saying that all the time. Lol
    Unfortunately no one can make the other person change or want to change. It has to come from them.
     
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  16. Pizzer

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    The best thing for you now is to focus on yourself.

    Maybe he'll realize his wrongdoing, maybe he won't, but you can't rest on your laurels hoping it'll work out, because most guys going through this are oblivious to the damage it's causing them and their partners, and therefore do not see it as a problem.

    They will always blame the partner, I have first hand experience doing this with mine and I'm paying for it now because she doesn't trust me, and I don't really get the love from her that I used to, it sucks, but It's not undeserved, I'm just chugging along at this point working on myself.

    Work on yourself, figure out what you want in life, and hey who knows, maybe he'll grow up a little and take this seriously and then perhaps give him another shot, because at the end of the day, we're all victims of a disgusting business, we can't be entirely blamed, but we can man the fuck up and work on it.
     
  17. Mimi V

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    The only one thing that I wish now is that someday he could open his eyes (but how if he doesn't have any interest to know more about the issue) and truly understands the damage he did to me and to other women.
     
  18. Mimi V

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    I'm trully sorry to hear that about your partner and I can imagine what she's going trough. I wish myself that guys could be more understanding with the feelings of their partners because of PMO.

    That's the only chance for me and him but honestly I think that even then it won't work anymore. Sometimes it's too late after things were said and done and the trust is not there anymore. I wish you that you and your partner can still make it together.
    Absolutely agree about we are victims but we can work on it.
     
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  19. And this is why I am grateful for your post. Thank you for sharing. Most PA's would benefit from reading such accounts. Somehow we get the idea that we're not hurting anyone else by what we look at, think of or by touching ourselves . . . yet we absolutely do hurt others (and ourselves) with PMO and we especially hurt our partners.
     
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