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Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by ZenAF, Mar 1, 2018.

  1. ZenAF

    ZenAF Fapstronaut

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    I relapsed just now... Feel like shit. I argued with myself twice today whether to do it or not. First time I was able to resist and very proud of myself. Second time I argued too long...
    I told myself bs like that my tracker is only set for Porn instead of PM and that I've already relapsed with masturbation. So why not relapse tonight and reset the tracker for both.
    I told myself shit like if I can't handle one relapse, how can I be sure that my mind is strong enough in the first place.

    I saw through all that nonsense the moment I thought it. But my curiosity and greed got the better of me. I watched the worst stuff I could find. Porn addict hypnosis videos and the like. Afterwards I took a cold shower to wash off the filth. I still feel disgusted with myself. And also sad. 17 days right down the gutter.

    I have nothing more to say for now. All "promises" that it was the last time and stuff like that are just empty words to me right now. I'll have to process this and eat up the consequences...
     
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  2. Hey man, I understand your situation, I'm almost a year into nofap already, and now just only on a 7 day streak...
    What happened to me sometimes, when a relapse happened (or rather.. when I chose to relapse).. after a relapse, I became careless, binged out on it... thoughts like.. what does it matter, I already messsed up, so now it doesnt matter much..
    However ofc this is a dangerous trap. After a relapse its so inportant to try to regain direction and also to learn from every relapse, why it happened, what triggered it, what were the thoughts etc.
    But yeah, I'm happy I havent relapsed the past 7 days, however there were some intense moments... but I know I would feel like total crap afterwards, and to be frank I think it may be good to feel so bad after a relapse, that means you are taking it seriously and dont want it to happen again. Have a good day !
     
  3. Stone_Richie

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    Get a grip on your self soldier, this is war!!!!!!

    If you don't destroy the enemy he will destroy you.

    Is five seconds of sleazy pleasure worth breaking your streak over?

    Being a man is about struggle, suffering and sacrifice, that's how you earn being a big man.

    Enjoy the pain, it means your alive, there is a battle in your soul and u must win!
     
  4. Sterkte

    Sterkte Fapstronaut

    Write those thoughts out, post it as a note or have it easily accessible on your desktop so that next time you're slipping you can pull it up and read it through, even outloud. I've started keeping journals myself, not just about urges but big decisions as well...I recently broke up with my girlfriend of almost 3 years (mutual decision, both knew it was wise), and I wrote down my thoughts at the time that led to that decision, so that now if I'm feeling doubtful I can go back and remind myself why I did it. You have the most clarity immediately after the tumultuous event, and reading your OWN words and thought process can be extremely powerful. It will remind yourself of ALL the reasons why you're trying to abstain, and how foolish and simply not worth it it would be to give in to a couple minutes of dirty pleasure. This is such an awesome platform, and sharing these thoughts with each other is an amazing tool as well!

    Wishing you strength, power will and determination my friend! Hope this suggestion helps out
     
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  5. ZenAF

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    I've been relapsing for two weeks now. I've found so many loopholes around my blocking software by now, that it's almost like it's not there. I'm not just addicted to porn, I'm addicted to lust itself. Half of the time I don't need porn, I'll just fantasize my own scenarios. Right now I'm pretty desperate to be honest, because this sickness of the mind feels way too powerful. I'm just too aware of how good it feels, I can't distract myself, I won't take a cold shower, I just give in, give in, give in.
    The funny part is, the rest of my life is going pretty great even on the women front. But none of that helps. Actually it makes it worse. Because the better I feel, the longer I was able to resist, the higher my chance of relapse. At some point, maybe after 50 or 60 days, it won't be so bad anymore, but I don't know how to get there.

    The problem is I want it. I don't know how to stop myself from wanting it. I keep telling myself how my life will turn into shit if I don't stop. And yet I do it, because I trained myself to shut down my brain as soon as I start getting into it.

    I'm scared of myself. I'm scared of the consequences. I'm desperate because I've tried many things by now and I'm deeper into my addiction than I've ever been.

    I've noticed that I also stopped coming to this forum lately. I'll do my best to force myself to come here regularly again.
     
  6. Out of the Furnace

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    ah thats not a good thing man :/ i hope you can get back on track. can you get some professional help or just the help of some AP partner or a good friend you can talk with? can you stay with someone for a few days so you won´t go back to PMO?
     
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  7. Sterkte

    Sterkte Fapstronaut

    I'm sorry to hear, man! An accountability partner would be a good idea as mentioned in the previous comment :emoji_thumbsup: someone in real life would be ideal, a trusted friend or partner perhaps, but someone who doesn't make you feel shameful about it. My ex-gf was mine and I ended up lying cause it made me feel so awful to be tell her when I slipped up.
    And try as much as possible to make it a habit coming on here at least once a day. This is such an awesome community, where people are experiencing the same things; so instead of cliche comments like "we fall to learn to pick ourselves up" etc., you can find good strategies to keep on track. Maybe put a reminder in your phone or something. I think I will, I've started coming on less and less, and I've been coming closer and closer to slipping up. I really hope it does get easier as we go on.....
    From your posts it's seems like you're really genuine, and recognize that your lusts aren't a part of your best self, and you legitimately want to change for the better which is a huge step. I'd suggest keeping track of all your triggers, and designing strategies to avoid them, even planning out your days to avoid too much time alone at home/in your room. Essentially you want to find something that is a powerful intrinsic motivator, the driving reason for why you want to kick this addiction, and use that as a weapon against urges.
    Please keep us posted on this thread, with good or bad news! We're all here for each other.
     
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  8. JamesMC89

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    Lol, now that's an excuse I hadn't heard yet. I can definitely sympathize though. Thinking that the streak isn't long enough, so what's another relapse. It's not like it will hurt....yeah right! I've made that mistake before.
     
  9. ZenAF

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    Hey Furnace, I thought about you after relapsing actually. Felt so hypocritical to give someone else advise on how to stay on track and then failing myself. I know, that's what the community is for, but still felt bad.
    I won't get professional help, I'm too embarrassed, too poor and too proud for it. I guess an AP would be a good thing, as you guys suggested. I'm just not familiar with the system here.

    Well the reason for stopping is the foundation of it all. And so far for me it was "My future wife doesn't deserve an addict for a husband". And even tho I'm really serious about that, it's quite abstract, far in the future. There are smaller, more immediate reasons like "Sex is better and I'm better at it when I abstain from PM" but even with that one I'm usually like "aaah 3 days break is enough!" (Ironically I found out this afternoon I'm probably gonna have sex tmmrw and I just came this morning, so I'm screwed :p)

    Honestly I'm at a point where I've thought a lot about this issue and at the end of the day, none of that really helps. It always comes down to staying serious when the lust waves arrive. Anti-Nike - "Just don't do it!"
    Cause all the reasoning and guilt don't help a thing when you know how to just shut off your brain when you get horny.
    Which goes hand in hand by the way with my fetish for femdom hypnosis.

    Also since I'm 14 I'm used to fantasizing about the special someone as soon as I go to bed and when I wake up in the morning. That often results in masturbation. But I don't only engage in those fantasies because of lust.. you might be able to relate. It's like a mind sanctuary after a long day. So it's hard for me to stop that just because I'm trying to quit PM.

    So whats the battle plan? Distract myself as much as possible when I get home (I cook, workout, play games, paint and the evening is usually over).
    Keep my fantasies to a minimum and when I do it keep my hands of my dick. I managed that for almost 2 weeks before... somehow..
    And be more consistent with meditation. I keep dropping it even tho it helps a ton.
    And cross my fingers. Shit does feel impossible at times.

    Thank you for your replies. It's motivating.
     
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  10. Sterkte

    Sterkte Fapstronaut

    Yeah it's all about rediscovering a healthy sexuality...that's what I've been thinking of a lot lately; what exactly does it look like? Porn distorts it, but that doesn't mean all sexual thoughts are bad, like you said about fantasizing, or looking forward to sex, I'd say that's healthy as long as it's in moderation. Especially at your age it'll be extremely important to rediscover healthy sexuality (or just discover for the first time?). And if you ever do find yourself slipping try and at least steer clear of your fetish, if you can avoid that, you may be able to teach yourself to not become submissive to your lusts/urges. And what you said about reasoning/guilt is so true. I think there's a point of no return, where even though you're not MOing immediately, you've made up your mind that you're going to ASAP. Maybe try to nip it earlier in the bud if you can. I know that's easier said than done haha
     
  11. Out of the Furnace

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    going down is not a problem as long as you get back up again. i also feel hypocritical when i gave advice on how not to relapse and then i relapse myself. we don´t need to be so hard on yourself. keep going son =)
     

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