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Why would most guys not even consider giving up their technical devices to get over porn addiction?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by skaterdrew, Jun 1, 2020.

  1. LoveIsAllWeNeed

    LoveIsAllWeNeed Fapstronaut

    You don't believe in self-respect?
     
  2. Well, i used to, but it fell insufficient i guess.

    Congrats on your porn free accomplishment! Keep on.
     
  3. While new to NF and enjoying my 28th day free I have not made any changes to tech.
    Just like an alcoholic will always have places to buy alcohol, a smoker a place to buy cigarettes, I believe this is a journey of mindset, will power and mind over matter.
    Sure have had urges, only a click away, but this to me is about my ability to make the right choices.
     
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  4. skaterdrew

    skaterdrew Fapstronaut

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    Generally though an alcoholic who is trying to quit alcohol will completely remove all alcohol from their home, and they generally will also avoid social settings that sell alcohol, bars, pubs, clubs ext.

    But unfortunately this is a much more difficult thing to achieve for a PMO addict, because we use the internet for many other things other than porn, we watch many other tv channels other than porn.

    Removing the thing from your home that you're addicted to is likely one of the first things most addicts would do. So removing alcohol, cigarettes, drugs from your home is one of the first things an addict trying to quit would usually do. But like I said this is much more difficult to do for a PMO addict, as it is literally a case of removing all sources of porn and artificial sexual stimulation from your home. To 100% achieve this you'd literally need to go as far as cutting off the internet and not having a tv in your home.

    It's frustrating because it is much easier for an alcoholic or drug addict to remove alcohol or drugs from their home than what it is for a PMO addict to remove all porn and artificial sexual stimulation from their home, in terms of what they would actually need to get rid of to achieve this.

    I think it is great you're managing to stay away from PMO and you haven't got rid of any of your technical devices, you haven't restricted your self in anyway. I think if you can do that then that is definitely the way to go. Bare in mind though that if you can easily stop something then that is a big indicator that you were never truly addicted to it in the first place. If you have basically got to 28 days of no PMO so early on in your journey then I question if you were ever truly addicted to PMO.

    True PMO addicts generally wouldn't be able to stop it this easily, and I doubt most true PMO addicts would get a streak as successful so early on in their journey.

    Many people can't stop porn and artificial sexual stimulation when they have such easy access to it. Many people are stuck in a cycle of constant relapse on porn and artificial sexual stimulation for years, and in my opinion one of the biggest causes of this, if not the biggest cause is because how easily they can access it. I mean the porn and artificial sexual stimulation isn't even removed from their home, which like I said is one of the first things an addict would do. Many of these guys aren't restricted from porn or artificial sexual stimulation in any way at all.

    In a way it is similar to an alcoholic who is trying to quit alcohol while having alcohol laying about their home, in a way it is similar to a drug addict who is trying to quit drugs while having drugs laying about their home.
     
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  5. LoveIsAllWeNeed

    LoveIsAllWeNeed Fapstronaut

    So all people who can stop quickly without relapsing are not 'truly' addicted? What kind of definition is that?

    For me, the shock of realizing I had deceived myself, hurt the people I love and followed the spiritual path away from who I truly am, has stopped me dead in my track. I radically stopped P and was away from it very quickly although it was a big struggle, with lots of craving, depression and loneliness.

    Being able to stop the PMO addiction quickly doesn't mean it's easy. In fact it's been the hardest thing I've ever done, but determination, mindset and will power from the shock of truly realizing what I was doing made me stop in an instant of something I'd been doing for nearly 45 years.
     
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  6. skaterdrew

    skaterdrew Fapstronaut

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    I'm not saying that some people who are truly addicted can't achieve this. But generally most people who are truly addicted don't achieve this, or seriously struggle to achieve this. Especially in the beginning.

    It's probably one of the biggest indicators that confirms wither or not you're an addict. Try to stop it and see what happens. If you relatively easily stop it with no relapses then you probably weren't a true addict. If you struggle to stop it and constantly relapse then you probably are a true addict.

    As far as I am aware the actual definition of addiction is continuing to do something despite knowing the negative consequences.

    From what you have said, relatively early on in your journey you realised all the negative consequences PMO was having on your life, and this alone was enough to make you stop PMOing, basically being able to stop PMO on your first attempt with no relapses.

    I'm sorry but this doesn't sound like addiction to me. Your managing to successfully stop PMO with no relapses, simply because you're aware of the negative consequences.

    Remember addiction is usually defined as continuing to do something despite the negative consequences.

    But your not doing that. Basically your first attempt, or relatively early on in your journey you have successfully managed to stop PMO with no relapses, simply because you're aware of the negative consequences of PMO.
     
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  7. OhWhenThe

    OhWhenThe Fapstronaut

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    Been doing this for the past 18 days(with 3 relapses) now but don't know what to think.

    For one I definitely feel like I'm recovering quicker, my morning wood and erections in general have been better than they have been for a long time and that's only after a few days of no technology. Unfortunately the flip side of this is that it's actually making me crave porn much more than normal and I'm also becoming incredibly depressed, I guess that's because it's causing my dopamine levels to drop even lower than normal.

    I'm probably going to keep trying it this way as whilst it's more difficult, it feels like 5 days no tech is worth about 20 days of just nofap.
     

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