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Would you still get morning wood if you had venous leak?

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by nick young, Jul 8, 2019.

  1. Daxos

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    Those people on those forums are clearly wrong. You CANT have morning wood with VL. Like your doctor probably explained, your veins are draining just as hard as your artery is pumping the blood in. So that means you can't hard becuase you lose what you gain. And to add to that, the artery pumps in a specific amount, and then it is the task of the veins to hold the blood there. The artery is not 24/7 during an erection pumping. It is like filling a bowl. You put in the bowl as much water as you need, then close the tap, and the bowl will hold the water there. Your penis is the same. The artery gives a specific supply, then stops, and the veins make sure the blood stays there
     
  2. Nuallann

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    The injection they give you is just a more potent PDE5 inhibitor like regular ED pill drugs. Only difference is its so potent it forces an erection, where as the pill stuff just makes it possible. Don't be worried about it, it's very unlikely anything would go wrong, and the only thing that really could is a really long sustained erection, which they know how to bring down should the need arise.

    As for the guys with VL saying they get morning wood, the miss diagnosis of VL is rather high for a variety of reasons, and a lot of those guys on those forums have genuinely never had a legit test. Many guys who believe they have VL, may actually have some plaquing/fibrous tissue inside the penis which looks like a VL on an ultrasound test, stuff can block inflow, and cause backflow, but the vein itself might be fine, its just covered up in that area, so can't function 100%. Gainswave has been reported as being able to break that up, and return functioning back to normal.

    Edit: whats your diet like, and lifestyle? Leafy greens are a vital part of forming NO(nitric oxide) in the body, and cardio also does the same. You need NO to vasodilate your veins to be able to get an erection, if the body is not making enough of it the smooth muscles can't relax, and the veins can't expand to let in blood. You're having hard erections around 60% of the time(doesn't always get 100%, we're human, not sex machines), so I'd rule out any real damage, maybe you're just not producing enough NO.

    Two papers/articles on it: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3575935/

    :https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12851125
     
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  3. nick young

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    my diet is great. I've always eaten a lot of fruits and vegetables and I work out a lot.
    I don't smoke anything either.
    It's just been a very strange 6 months. I am not understanding when doctors just diagnose me with having psychological ED without doing any proper testing. They literally only took a blood test and when they saw it came back fine they just offered me viagro. It's just very disappointing to know these trained and skilled doctors aren't taking this seriously to even order an ultrasound to test me.
     
  4. nick young

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    yeah I don't know it's just very annoying. my next doctors appointment isn't until october 30th and i am going to go crazy until then. I just want an answer as to what is causing this. these past 6 months have been hell.
     
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    i wish somebody with actual venous leak would visit this thread and let us know their symptoms.
     
  6. Daxos

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    I feel you. Right now I have unexplained ED again as well. Had wonderful erections for 2 weeks, then one day with an erection in my pants it felt uncomfortable and I immediately panicked and started thinking like that would somehow damage my penis. Since that day, around 8 days ago, I have shitty erections.

    I truly think the psychological part plays more heavily then you could imagine. I mean, I had great erections for 2 weeks, and all of a sudden I get shitty erections from being scared of an uncomfortable erection when wearing pants. Like for real, how could that damage my penis....

    But still, I have horrible erections and horrible libido now. Your case might be the same, as in, you are holding yourself back.
     
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  7. nick young

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    Well...at least I’m a little at ease knowing that I can’t have venous leak even if I have morning wood only once a week or so.
     
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  8. nick young

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    also, how do you guys measure if your erection is strong and rigid?
    is it just trying to bend it?
     
  9. Daxos

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    You generally find out yourself when you get erections. Whenever I get a really strong erection, I feel a strong contraction in my PC muscles when I stand up. When I have bad erections, I do not feel these PC contractions. Also, when my erections are great, the head is fully engorged. With bad erections, this is not always the case. With strong erections, my base is more rigid and less flexible, when I have bad erections, my base is very flexible and I can even bend my penis internally and externally. When I have a great erection I really CANT bend internally or externally. Also, when I have good erections, it will rise up more to the sky, and when I have bad erections, the erection just faces down and is falling under his own weight. These are some examples of my specific case
     
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    Yes I do feel a tight contraction as well most of the time especially with morning wood. My penis stands up too and it does feel really rigid. I cannot bend it most of the time no matter how hard I try.

    What do you mean though by bending internally and externally?
     
  11. Daxos

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    Ok you seriously can't have Venous Leak. I don't want to hear a single thing coming from you again about VL ;). Your erections sounds absolutely healthy. The contraction you feel means the PC muscles are trapping blood around the base, and in doing so also constrict the veins against the tunic albuginea so they can't let blood slip as well. You are perfectly fine to what I read.

    Hmmm it is hard to explain. Try looking it up on youtube in fitness. That will give a visual presentation of what internal and external rotation are
     
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    Thanks!
    Yeah, if figured that a venous leak meant you’d get a really weak erection all the time and it wouldn’t fluctuate.

    I’ll make sure to YouTube that. Thanks for all your help and best of luck to you and your journey! I’ll just take my doctors advice and go get some anxiety counseling.
     
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    NoFap might suffice as well ;)
     
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    I mean...I still get erections when I’m having sex or turned on by seeing a naked body. The only thing is my lack of morning wood and masturbation is sometimes weird. Idk if that’s no cap since I still get boners for sex.

    I actually diagnosed myself with having ED before I even tried to see if I can get an erection. I felt a flatline and numb feeling in my penis one day and I immediately freaked out and automatically thought I couldn’t get erections anymore. Ever since then I’ve been having weird erecrion problems which is why I don’t think my issue was porn. I am just being a hypochondriac crazy person and I feel like my constant anxiety and worry about my erections in the past 7 months is the reason I’m getting weird erections. I’m trying to not think about erections at all so they can go back to normal but it is very difficult to keep my mind off of it.
     
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    If you can get an erection for sex you don't have a venous leak,lmao. Cheer up man, thats good news.

    I've started a new running regime 3 times a week, for 30 minutes(can't run the full 30 minutes yet, doing 1 minute run, 2 minute walk). I've noticed that my erections are happening much more easily, so I started doing research. Turns out cardio causes Angiogenesis(growth of new veins), especially in the lower body, and also makes the endothelial cell(interior surface of blood vessels) more flexable, which is what you need for good blood flow. A stiff blood vessel doesn't move blood as well, and has a harder time vasodilating, which is of course what an erection is. Seems this effect, effects all the endothelial cell in the body through the increase in oxygenination of the blood, not just the main arteries used in running.

    Can cardio cure ED? Idk, but from some of the research I've seen a few months of solid cardio causes endothelial cells to revert to a more youthful state, as opposed to being more stiff. Noticing positive effects already.

    Edit: from what I've found, weight lifting does have this effect, but to a much lesser degree, cardio really seems to be the gold standard for reversing endothelial stiffness simply because of the demand it puts on our cardiovascular systems.

    Research paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6199487/
     
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    yeah I noticed when I take long walks (like 5 hours) my erections become really hard for like 3 days after lol

    I'm glad the thing about getting morning wood eliminates the chance of getting a leak even though I'm having a talk with some 60 year old man in another forum who supposedly was diagnosed with venous leak at 31 years old and he said he still had morning wood often after that. It doesn't make sense to me scientifically to have both VL and morning wood but idk lol
     
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    You walk for 5 hours straight?!

    How can you have venous leak but also have morning wood? Isn't that impossible? I've also heard that venous leak is often misdiagnosed. Maybe that's what happened to him?
     
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    yeah i've always enjoyed walking around in the city hahah
    that's exactly what I asked him and he said he got 2 tests done and both doctors said he had VL.
    I think he only got it when he slept on his back though. I don't think he would have gotten morning wood or erections at al standing up.
     
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  19. Daxos

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    I am the same. I developed hypochondria due to erectile anxiety as well. For about 6 months I thought everything was wrong with my penis. 1 Month it was Peyronie's, the next it was Venous Leak, and it all turned out to be 'just' PIED and chronic pelvic pain. I now know I am fine. You have to let go. The fear almost killed me, literally. I was at the very edge of ending it all... But I got out of that endless well and now see that there was a ladder all along.
     
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    I can confirm this! I have always believed why my recoveries from PIED were always within 90 days because I do Cardio like an animal since I am in the military and do running a lot as well. I've had streaks where my boners came back after only 20 days. It must have been the cardio, good rest, stress-free life and supplements like L-citrulline combined with L-arginine
     

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