So im on day 30 of nofap and i had sex today. She was giving me head and I pulled it out of her mouth and masterbated until I finished inside of her mouth. Is this violation of nofap or is it okay because i was with a partner?
The only thing that matters is what you think it was. You set your own rules for abstaining from PMO and there is no magical one-size-fits-all approach to any of this. If you _must_ stimulate yourself to achive orgasm with a partner it's most likely due to either you having ED in one form or another, or that your partner is incompatible with you sexually at this point (ie. bad at pleasing you). If you _can_ orgasm with a partner during sex, but choose to stimulate yourself to orgasm now and again, well that is just normal sexuality.
In my opinion it's not a violation since you were with someone. But if it were me, and she was already there, i would let her finish the job the way she wanted to.
@BunderVillager, it sounds like a porn fueled fantasy, not authentic sex. Is that what she wanted you to do?
Refraining from PMO is about healing from porn abuse. Porn abuse causes symptoms like not be able to orgasm by another partner's stimulation. Don't try to make yourself cum again. If it doesn't happen, it just doesn't happen. Having sex after your reboot normally doesn't feel great. Over time though, as you get more used to it and your body wants to orgasm, it will become easier and feel better. Don't jerk yourself again, just have a good time and enjoy your partner. Don't worry about how hard you are or if you finish
I don’t think it’s a failure necessarily but it probably means your not fully healed yet. I don’t think it would be a setback either since no P was involved.
It depends on what you're trying to achieve. What are you trying to accomplish? There's no set rule for everyone across the board. Some want to recover just to enable future erections; others, for personal integrity and spiritual reasons, and then there's everything in between. Hence, I would say that if you're trying to cure PIED for future normal intercourse, then the situation you describe was a setback. .
an orgasm by mouth or vagina alone with no hand stimulation is a good goal for nofapstranauts. If the orgasm happened naturally i say thats a good experience. I had bad sex that was rushed. I had her use her hands and it took a minute or two. I felt i had to force myself to orgasm. That was not a good experience for me. Yours sounds better.
It was serious well i can still get hard when having intercourse with her so does that still put me in the PIED category if im still fully erect?
Then, why are you even concerned with giving up PMO in the first place? Just following what others are doing here? Is that what you're about? Or, what is it in your life that makes PMO damaging? And, I'm not talking about the silly stuff like brain fog or reduced motivation, etc. One can't blame everything on PMO. So the question is, How are you harmed by PMO? Why give it up? What's your goal and purposes, if any? Apparently, it's not PIED. It's impossible to know if you had a relapse or a reset if you don't articulate what your reset/relapse criteria are, but based on well-discerned goals in recovery in the first place. Get it? .
No. It is not. You were performing a sexual act with another person. That's the goal. Perhaps she could get better at making you cum over time. And reducing the amount of time that you do jack off will also help you to cum more easily from BJs. Optimally, cumming without using your hands at all would be your best scenario. And preferably from intercourse.
it is included sex too, so there is no violation. don't turn the ant into elephant bro. abstaining PMO doesn't mean that your sex life will continue awful. make it colorful. do your partner whatever you want.
Speaking of "blowjobs" I said it out loud and it felt like I was talking in a normal conversation. I wish I had more mannered or whatever it is that makes sex less of a priority.