Hi, i've done recovery from porn and also adult games for sometimes due to my PIED (thankfully i get better now). However, i want to know are playing adult games worse or better than just watching porn and why?
By adult games you mean like those porn games you see on the internet or like board games? While I feel like that stuff isn't exactly like pmo I feel like it would realistically be a slippery slope right back down to pmo because its all in the same ballpark. Its like having one foot in and one foot out the house but expecting to be able to leave the house without taking that second foot out. A small minority of people can actually recover from pmo by weening off or keeping certain things related to porn/sex around them but I think for the vast majority its easier in the long run to just go all in and stay away from all of it for some time.
What i mean is a porn games on the internet or even an offline one but still a porn game. And thanks a lot for your opinion
Video games have the potential to be addictive by themselves. I would not recommend combining them with a past addiction. I would caution to stay away even from Japanese dating sims and the like, even though they don't always show nudity. It just reinforces the pattern of needing sexual excitement.
Well, how do the games affect you. Do they arouse? Do they weaken you into addictive behaviors? Are they draw away from your recovery efforts? If so, they are like P or P substitutes. .
Well, based on my experiences, i spent hours for playing adult games back in the days. I personally think it makes me edging (maybe this is the cause for my PIED?) because i wanted to know what happen next (i liked story based adult games) while on the other hand, i held my ejaculation so that i had reasons to keep playing the games and following the storyline. Anyway, thank you for your opinion.
Well i think that's why we should get away from adult games. To normalize our way of thinking about sex
My main problem is with adult games. When i relapse, I tend to check 'new releases' on a few specific sites before anything else. I suppose the addiction is really centered around this idea of seeing something 'new'. Similar to drawn or animated porn, the sexual situations depicted don't have to conform with reality which is a godsend if you've escalated past the point of normality (like I have). The games also add an interactive element which in some sense make them more cathartic/engaging but also more damaging. The main problem is that once you've found a few games that absolutely fit your specific kinks/fetishes, you are endlessly waiting for an update from the developer. This has caused nearly every relapse I've had - simply thinking "well there must be a new update out now! and maybe it has everything I want in it!", then proceeding to check one of these sites and either getting that hit i desire or (more likely) see the update has been delayed and realizing i'm going to have to get your rocks off to something else. It's also expensive. Once one of these games has you hooked the fastest way to get updates is usually through patreon. At my worst I was spending probably around $20 a month on patreon just to get updates from a handful of games (not much for some people but a lot for me). You don't really have control over a dev, so there's a massive amount of blue balling when they just delay a game or stop a project entirely. In short, don't go near porn games. It's a whole industry now and quite a profitable one at that if you can hit on a good kink and make a passable game. I still struggle with it as the experiences had in a game are much broader and complex than those had simply from watching porn. I remember clearly the 'feeling, atmosphere and emotion' of certain games more than just the straight 'arousal' of a porn film.
Well i agree completely with you since i had experienced the same thing. I think it was not porn that makes me go through PIED experience back then but the hyper stimulus from porn games since i never edging before when i was just using porn but when i used porn games, i tended to do edging like hours since i love to know the story as well as the sexual stimulus. Anyway thank you for your opinion.
Absolutely dude, the edging is the real long term problem with these games. They're not just a 5, 10 or even 20 minute bit of 'fun' as they are designed to be played over hours.
Yes that's right, i assume these games are more dangerous then since it makes people edging for hours
Both are equally worse. Because they serve the same purpose. We don't watch porn or play adult games just for fun. We just did them for M. So there's really no difference. It also includes reading erotic stories or even looking for erotic pics. It only deviates us from our goal. And plus, all these things are so unrealistic, they are of no productive use. One very important question I asked myself , is to state only one productive use of all these things. One can argue that it releases stress. But there are many healthier options to do the same. I only experienced negative effects and found no positive effect. So I got my mind clear and decided to leave this all and better to invest my time on other better things.
Worse, who knows? Better? Good luck with that. Maybe like an alcoholic switching from aftershave to 100 proof gin.
Yes i agree, it is worse actually after i think again about it. I must try to avoid it as long as possible or maybe forever is even better for me