Let's talk about Strip Joints [ potential triggers ]

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by ReadyToStop, Jul 10, 2016.

  1. ReadyToStop

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    I decided to start a thread about something that has been just as problematic to my health, marriage, self esteem as online Porn. Unlike porn, though, it's been particularly problematic financially. I'm talking about Gentlemen's Clubs, that dark intersection between pornography, fantasy and prostitution.

    For me this is a bigger problem than online porn.

    I have had a particularly nagging habit of planting myself in those places for hours, finding a girl to obsess over and paying a lot of money to. My goal is usually to get jerked off by one of them, sadly. Sometimes I get what I'm looking for and sometimes I don't. Either way trying to find out is destructive and expensive. I never go to these clubs with any other guys because I have usually tried to make an intimate connection and have a bunch of drunk idiots with me isn't my style.

    The whole strip joint industry is expertly engineered for us which I find fascinating. The porn world is filled with hundreds of specific categories and interests. By comparison these adult clubs are all largely the same: The lights, the heels, the DJ, the pole. It's kind of amazing how the whole thing has evolved and how exacting it's appeal is.

    I would like to open a discussion with people with a few requests. Let's keep it observant and polite. No insults to the hard working girls that do this for a living. I'm just interested to hear how many of you have the same problem I do and how you deal with it?

    thanks for reading
     
  2. Themadfapper

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    I was excited by strip clubs when I was younger, but they became very boring and dull to me in a very short time. How many naked girls can you see, and eventually you realise these girls are nothing special. The ridiculously hard fake tits so many strippers get, the overuse of makeup.


    Spending all that money in a place like that on a woman who is playing you for your cash is not the way to go. Spending that much cash for a handjob is a sign of poor self-control and a bad addiction. The last thing you want to do is "make an emotional connection". These people are looking for suckers to take advantage of it's what they do for a living. Don't be one of those suckers and don't support that horrible industry.
     
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  3. nitsuj0786

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    The previous guy is right. You looking for an "emotional connection" is exactly what their looking for. The only connection that they are looking to make is with your wallet. You are the sucker when looking for that emotional connection. Handjob or not at the end of the night you are going home without them. If you are married and happily, the addiction side can separate the two unfortunately, then you need to sit down and ask yourself how much you have to lose. This definitely comes down to a discipline issue. There is a rush of dopamine when doing this but it ends pretty much the same as a porn binge except you have lost a lot of money with nothing to gain. The dopamine rush tells you that the reward is going to be awesome but we know how that ends up.
     
  4. ReadyToStop

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    It really is just expensive "edging". For hours.

    I know all this it's just the flirting and feeling attractive that I like.
     
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  5. nitsuj0786

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    But just like porn it is the dopamine high that you get from the flirting and the feeling attractive. Life will get a lot better when you abstain form the strip clubs. They only care about your wallet anyway. If you have a wife work having a better relationship with her. Enough time away and she will be chasing you around the house.
     
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  6. sexytime

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    I have no experience going to a real strip club. Only vanilla unicorn in GTA 5. I would imagine that it isn't much different than porn. You get the touch experience and you loose a lot of money. I remember in gta 5, I would get so excited when I went to that strip club. I would spend hours in there spending money and then after spending like 100 dollars she would go home to sleep with the character. I mean you feel pretty good probably but the key point is, it's not worth it.

    If you want to feel sympathy for them, I will tell you that you should feel sorry that they are programmed so you can be programmed. They have been used as a way to provide you pleasure so you can benefit their company. If you want to do the world any favors, start by boycotting the strip club.

    Here is this one video I saw on the emergency noFap tool bar. It is something worth watching.
     
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  7. himmelstoss

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    Reminder that one of the characters in GTA5 married a stripper, bought her a new body like a fucking idiot, and let's her fuck other men. This guy was supposed to be an ice cold bank robber.
     
  8. Hotshot

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    I haven't been to a strip club in years. When I PMO'd it didn't do anything for me. Real women weren't enough. Nor was just 1.
     
  9. iceman40

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    yes I feel like that about strip clubs. When I was younger it was this great fantasy that was brought up by Hollywood and how amazing and great it is. The light or dark, the women have 5 pounds of makeup on, and they find the highest high heels they can get their hands on with very skimpy clothes. Most guys who go there or lonely thus when an attractive woman comes and sits by you and talks to you and asks you for dance you think she might like you. I've seen some of these girls and public and their not that good-looking. They have a lot of addictions to alcohol, smoking, drugs, another bull shit. plus after they work a six-hour shift in the club they actually start to smell sweat and all kinds of body smells. I've even been to strip clubs in foreign countries we can actually take the girl in the back and have sex with her. I believe I have done my fair share of this action and I can't remember when was the last time I went to a strip club. It's really a waste of money and a big fat tease that leaves you with blue balls..
     
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  10. dazedand confused

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    I signed up just to reply to this post. I am 55 and struggle with porn/sex addiction. I think porn and depression were the springboard to all of my problems now. My marriage is a disaster and my business is struggling because of strip bars. I started going in them probably 3 years ago. As usual I met a girl. I had been hanging out and traveling with this girl. I have given her a fortune to help her out and sadly her life is still a mess as well. My wife found out and is deeply hurt! I feel shame about cheating and the money spent. I am also very very heart broke because I became attached to this dancer. For what it is worth the relationship has not been good for her either. Everyone involved has paid a steep price. Just stay out of strip clubs. I don't know if I will ever get over the mess I created!
     
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  11. zadvanceppa

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    Thanks for sharing your comments Dazed and Confused. Few issues are resolved in strip joints. A helpful story to share with us.
     
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  12. mlang284

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    Thank you for sharing and I'm glad you've signed up here; I hope you stay with the community and gain strength from it. I think many of us here have made some awful choices in the past that affected relationships, career (I lost a job because of PMO), finances, time spent doing better things... I appreciate your insight into strip clubs as a poor choice. The future lies ahead and now you can continue on as someone like us who is recovering. You may not see any way right now for resolution...but you can make your best effort and know you'll be moving in a positive direction (about doing your best and letting God do the rest, may sound trite but there's truth in it). There may be relapses along the way - I've struggled just to get to a full week without the old ways - the important thing is that we lean on the community and prayer. You're no longer alone in the road to freedom.
     
  13. ReadyToStop

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    thanks for these stories. I've managed to stay out since writing. Let's keep on this Forum because I think it'll be helpful for all of us.
     
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  14. Ikindaknew

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    I don't agree that strip joints are worse than online porn nowadays. Accessibility is easy, in your home, while your spouse is in the house...

    strip joints were there way before internet porn. Strip joints didn't give me PIED. I wouldn't go to strip joint every day....porn I did.

    Last time I was in a joint was a long time ago...circa year 2000...maybe that changed!

    My Ex went stripping, so I requested divorce...I didn't want to share...and I didn't marry to have my wife going to become that....
     
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  15. ReadyToStop

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    Good point. I really was just talking about the money. You can gun with porn all day and pay nothing. Stripping can ruin you....
     
  16. Themadfapper

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    ^ Yup, not just money either. A lot of strippers are hooked up with bad people, criminal types, and they might try to rip you off, threaten to hurt you, or even hurt you.

    I've listened to girls brag about the guys the ripped off and how they took some loser for all his cash. They don't care if you're a senior, disabled, or whatever.
     
  17. I don't judge strippers, they have mental problems and big problems and pain just like people who are addicted to porn, except worse. they get messed up 1000 times over. we leave at the end of the night, but they have to live with them self. how would that feel?
     
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  18. pablo8744

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    Ok guys I have another question about this whole strip club thing.
    Is it helping your recovery to get away from porn addiction ? Because you see real girls and not some pixels on a computer screen.
    What do you guys think ?
     
  19. No, they should be avoided. NoFap is about reclaiming intimacy. This means redefining sex - going from seeing it as something that is pleasurable for you alone to viewing it as a shared experience that increases trust, connection, and intimacy with another individual. Strip clubs, while more real than porn, are still artificial, one-sided experiences. The question you should ask is, "Why am I doing this?" If your answer only includes you, then you're doing it wrong. Just my thoughts. No judgement as obviously, all of us are here for a reason.
     
  20. Themadfapper

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    Sound like the drug addict "reasoning" usage of his drug of choice, lol.


    Strip clubs are full of porn users, chronic masturbaters, and sex addicts.