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100 Cold Approaches

Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by StoicContemplation, Dec 12, 2020.

  1. I didn't necessarily mean a girl for a long-term commitment. I meant even a one-night stand. I might as well be invisible.
     
  2. jcl1990

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    There probably are some girls who would be interested in you somewhere around where you are. Maybe you don't like them very much though
     
  3. Well yeah, I wouldn't be too interested in crack whores or women who weigh 500 lbs.
     
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  4. Infidel.48

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    This is how humans have evovled to prevent impulsive sex which would have bad consequences.
     
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  5. Not sure I believe that. If you believe in evolution, we should be rutting like pigs for propagation of the species.
     
  6. icebreaker p

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    Thank you so much for your answer! I see that you're right and this is really helpful. All the more because at the moment I'm in contact with a some really attractive girls. Because they're colleagues / friends it's a little difficult to make the step to real flirting, as you defined it. But true, it's not such a big deal. First thing is, to enjoy their company and be approachable, active, positive, interested ... and at a certain point I have to make a decision like to risk something.
    I only have to push myself a little bit and open up, then everything will be alright and new opportunities will arrive.

    Decisions are important though. As I know it, opportunities can go from zero to a lot very quickly. Suddenly you have to decide between different choices, which could be different girls as well as different strategies with different goals. Llike for example you think how to get in the pants of girl A while you also imagine to marry and have kids with girl B and suddenly girl C, who's quite nice but also irratating, is approaching.
    I mean, at some point one needs to make a decision. Maybe follow ones heart or dare a bold move. But do something!

    Ok, so much for today. I think I'm on the right track.
     
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  7. icebreaker p

    icebreaker p Fapstronaut

    Of course everything will be much better if we stay away from porn !!!
    and abstaining from masturbation will help us too
     
  8. icebreaker p

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    Very much appreciated! It's like you say just the right words. It makes so much sense and I'm not deterred at all because of things that doesn't fit me well.
    I'll try to keep all that in mind and train ... all these things. Actually, there are so many things I could do better, or rather that I want to do better. But all this can be a lot of fun, I think.
    I just have to think about my general approach and mindset ...
     
  9. StoicContemplation

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    Did an approach in my hometown [which is more on the countryside].

    Crossed a woman on the street and went indirect. This woman was Ukrainian, not a refugee though. She was a bit older than me [maybe end 20s or begin 30s] but I was quite blown away by the beauty. These Slavic girls have an aura of feminity that girls here simply lack, unique eye colour too. Refugees welcome.

    We get chatting but she mentions that she's here with her partner, so I didn't go for the number.

    Remark:

    My inner game is not on point: she looked at her phone once to check the hour [she had an appointment] and I immediately interpreted this as signal to end the interaction. It's like my brain is processing these things in my disfavor. It's self-limiting and reflects a weak psychological foundation. I think I resisted the urge to end the conversation but still... I need to give less fucks.

    I also found myself in a chit-chat situation in the salad section of the supermarket with a MILF. I technically opened on her, asking if I need to move so she can grab the salad. She then states an opinion about a salad. We chat a bit but it's in French. She also had a kid who was shouting "Maman, maman!", at a certain point she was looking at her kid and then I also ended it. I'm not going to count this one.

    I did 1 night game opening last weekend. The girl was actually pretty pleasant to talk to, despite the fact that women tend to look more intimidating during the night. Should have done some more.

    99/100
     
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  10. StoicContemplation

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    Today I had 2 dates and did 2 approaches, thus finishing this set of 100 approaches.

    I had a second date with the girl I had a coffee with before Easter break. We ate somewhere and it was pleasant. I was sitting next to her [small restaurant] and I did have some mild kino [touching her arm when making jokes], although I didn't reach the point of real seduction. I think it's likely I will see her again.

    In PUA terms, I didn't really meet her by "opening" her but we got engaged in conversation naturally. I do think it fits within the notion of cold approaching by getting clean, going out and actually entering the world of women.

    I then had a coffee date with the Albanian girl I approached in the supermarket last week. It's the first date I got from a supermarket approach, which is cool I guess. It's really hard to go into seduction mode when you're just having a coffee with someone. Venue hopping isn't self-evident either because girls don't just give you their whole day [which you shouldn't do either]. The conversation just boiled down to talking about Albania. The girl was the introvert quirky type, which I don't mind. Not sure if this will lead to a second date.

    I must say that in a way I'm sometimes elated when a girl says "Uhm, can you ask in English?" when I approach her, but the date with the girl of my country was more pleasant. There isn't that language barrier, you can express yourself more easily.

    I really feel exhausted because I literally dedicated my whole afternoon to women. Just now in the evening I did some mild escalation with a girl who sleeps in the same corrider as me. I was in the kitchen, started talking with her, asked her to sit next to me on the couch and did a bit of kino whilst watching TV. I also tried to kiss but she rejected. She didn't revolt with the touching. Suddenly her friend called and she had to go. I asked her number and she 'shit tested' me by saying "Hmm, do I want that?" to which I said "You can reject me. I don't care.". It's true, I don't care, and I might use that sentence more in future approaches. She said "Maybe I'll see you around."

    100/100
    11 numbers
    3 dates

    This set of approaches took me a very long time to finish. It was only until March that I got into a certain approach rhythm where I started to get a number here and there. The first 50 approaches were just too incidental and way too spreaded over time, so I never reached a state of momentum. It's only in the last 7 weeks that I did enough approaches to get a bit more comfortable.
     
  11. StoicContemplation

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    So I gues I'll start a third round of 100 approaches...

    2 approaches. 1 number.

    A girl in the library who I recognized from class [I don't know her though]. Her face became very red when I asked for the number. She rejected but said she appreciated the talk.

    The other approach was a girl from Iran in a supermarket. Asked her about the bread she had in her hand and then we end up chatting. Have the number.

    I also spend the day in the library with the girl I had lunch with yesterday. We go and grab some food and then she asks me "So, we go eat in the park?" and then I suggested her apartment, which she agreed upon. I think I could have made some seduction moves there, her sister wasn't there. But it was just comfort building mainly. I did some light touching throughout the day: touching lower back, grabbing her lower arm, etc. I think a skilled seducer would have been able to get at least a kiss out of that situation on the apartment...

    I must say that I was constantly trying to monitor the frame. I like to walk slowly so when we walk she walked a bit faster and ahead of me. I grabber her upper arm and then pulled her towards me saying "Walk slower.". Sometimes she said "Shouldn't we go that way?" when we were walking in the city. Never abide! Lead. Be comfortable in your decisions.

    2/100
    1 number
    0 dates
     
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  12. StoicContemplation

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    Earlier I said I want to try some direct daygame in the next 100 approaches. Honestly, I think you have to have a really strong mental/social caliber to be able to go direct in a smooth way... But maybe the point is to try it anyway to kill the ego instead of waiting "on the right time".

    Well, I was walking in the street and two girls were walking in front of me. In a loud voice I said "Excuse me, you have a nice sweater." She just nodded and kept walking.

    Daygame purists might argue that this isn't a real "set", that I had to "stop" them and state my intent. I was carrying a luggage so doing that daygame jog and front stop was really out of the question. Baby steps...

    3/100
     
  13. Kowe

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    Nice plunge into the world of direct daygame but a little weird to do this from behind the girls? Flyby compliments work better if they are walking in your direction.

    It's great to do these 'flyby' sets just to realise that most women are actually happy to be complimented.

    When I am in a state crash from bombing too many sets, I go back to flyby compliments (and indirect) to try to heal my state.

    Next time you can try to go alongside her and get her attention before the compliment. You don't have to do the big front stop and I'd probably advise not doing it.

    What 'counts' as a set is a pointless debate. You said something, she heard you - it counts. I know some daygame purists don't count a set unless she stops or unless it's a certain length though.
     
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  14. Direct, indirect. In the end it’s just about socializing. Sometimes it will be very appropriate to do direct. Sometimes not.

    but the thing is you don’t know until you try. For me game is not about finding what works. Because there are no answers. It’s about dealing with the negative. And learning to be okay with it days after days. Years after years.

    As you said guys, It’s an emotional roller caster. Game teaches you how to be loved for who you really are. It’s difficult because you can be fully you, and still get rejected. And thinking afterwards that you did something wrong.

    it’s not necessarily your fault. I think it’s important to be kinder to ourselves in these moments.
     
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  15. StoicContemplation

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    Right, it wasn't socially savvy. Although I had no intention to start a conversation but instead just 'deliver' the compliment for the sake of courage, getting alongside them would have been less weird indeed.

    Good points on the flybly compliments too, I will try them out.

    Honestly mate, I currently find myself in a hellish mood. I think I got ghosted by the girl I hung out with this week. I know that I shouldn't care, reframe it as a learning experience, do more approaches etc. but it just fills me with a bad feeling. It's a toxic cocktail of confusion, lust, despair and bitterness. I have to work on my entitled mindset and weak emotional control.
     
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  16. Master Builder

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    I admire your dedication.

    Keep on trucking!
     
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  17. Kowe

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    Which one was this? The Albanian or Greek girl?
     
  18. Ghost79

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    I want to start approaching again but I havent done it in many months already and I feel afraid doing it since the last ones had rejected me instantly. Anyone got tips?
     
  19. StoicContemplation

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    1 date. 1 approach.

    I had a second date with the Albanian girl [from the previous 100 approaches]. We just had a coffee on a terrace. No escalation whatsoever.

    In the beginning she said that she felt lazy today but didn't want to be rude so that she went on a date with me anyway. Point noted. I personally found this a very socially unsavvy thing to say. I'm not sure if a girl needs to be jumping in the air to go on a date with you in order to seduce her, but I guess there needs to be a certain enthusiasm. Luckily though, I saw this date as an afterthought, so the hit on my ego was small [I already experienced a mini ego death this weekend anyway]. But then again, getting the ego bruised should be welcomed with open arms. Less entitlement. More detachment.

    Previous week I had 2 dates with a girl and it was really the focal point of my week. A big mistake. It should be an afterthought. A side dish. When I sat in the library with her, I couldn't even concentrate on my task, but I was constantly having the conversation with myself on how I should "game" her. It's not like it's the other way around. Because I invested my emotions too much in her, the feeling when she ghosted me was torturous.

    This is something I have to really watch out with in the future. Make girls an afterthought. Getting a number? Who cares, they flake anyway.

    Did an indirect approach at the printers of the library. I think a personal conversation was about to take off, but I wasn't in a chatty mood.

    4/100

    Hey man, how is your current lifestyle? Are you going out, presenting yourself in a respectable manner to the world? Are you recurrently having smalltalk with shop clerks for example? Are you trying to make eye contact with women when you're in the city?

    I think it's easier to get into daygame if you have the right mental calibration. If you're currently not fulfilled with your days, don't exercise, fill the mind/body with junk, then the barrier to do daygame effectively will be harder to surmount.

    I didn't contact the Greek girl after she LJBF'd me.

    I was talking about the local girl. It died on the vine.
     
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    @StoicContemplation
    My current lifestyle is one of a healthy one, I exercise regularly and eat mostly healthy. But I've become a gloomy person lately and depressed. But nothing a smile can't hide at first impression.
    I'm an introvert so it's not easy for me to have smal talk but I so try it when I can.
    I love women's eyes and ussually stare at one a bit longer then socially accepted. The women then look also into me as if there expecting me to say something to them.
     

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