So true. Just by being in this group, or even on this website, means that we are looking for help, which makes everything solicited. Yes, exactly! Just get it out of the way. The best thing short of not M'ing at all is to M only to the sensation of touch, without any imagery at all in your head. This would be tough in the beginning and I wouldn't recommend it. It's important to realize that once you know you're going to M, you haven't completely lost as long as you work on HOW you're going to M. Working on a gradual reduction from: M'ing to porn M'ing to porn fantasy (playing porn in your head, without the actual screen) M'ing to fantasy based on real life M'ing to only actual memories M'ing to only the sensations of touch, with no imagery And of course like you said, always trying to get it out of the way as fast as possible and with longer intervals in-between. Treating every M session as working towards a longer term goal, instead of being a slip or relapse that resets your counter back to zero that keeps you stuck in a vicious cycle.