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5 Months of NoFap so far - Severe PAWS.

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by KaliYugaWarrior, Feb 10, 2021.

  1. KaliYugaWarrior

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    Here's a list of some major symptoms I have -
    • Anxiety is truly terrible sometimes. Other times I can manage. Have difficulty talking to mostly anyone except my friends I guess.
    • Losing a lot of weight. Now I'm not sure if this is because of my lifestyle changes (more exercise, nutritious diet, walks and yoga) or the semen leakage happening because of constipation and perhaps because of overusing my limp which has made the nerves their weak. I was 89 kg last year, now I'm 69 kg. I'm scared as I'm looking thin instead of being fit.
    • Digestion is totally messed up. Have Constipation. I'm passing mushy and very few solid stools everyday.
    • My biggest difficulty is Acid Reflux or GERD. Seems to be getting less now though. But still have to be on a diet. Can't eat anything outside home. Anything even a bit spicy can fuck me up for 2-3 days.
    • Cognitive performance is all time low. I'm not able to think clearly. Find doing even the basic things difficult sometimes.
    • Occasional Nocturia - this developed pre nofap and was a lot initially. Seems to be reducing. I avoid any kind of drink at night whether milk or just water.
    • Semen leakage. This perhaps shall continue until constipation clears up.
    • Insomnia - can sleep max 3 hours without interruption in sleep. Wake up like 2-3 times and then go back to sleep.
    • I have the gift of an anal fissure as well. This was because I was taking PPIs for my reflux and that only made my constipation worse. It really burst up my anus. I was in unbelievable pain for 20 days. Least to say, I don't depend on allopathic medicines anymore or if I do, I make sure to consume half of what the doctor would ask me to do.
    I see very few people mention PAWS. Or maybe only very few people go through it. I'm in touch with many people who have gone through this phase though and have had similar symptoms. Ayurvedic medicines have been helpful at times. I'm going through hell although there are glimpses of things coming back to normal sometimes. Good luck to each and everyone.

    ॐ सर्वे भवन्तु सुखिनः
     
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  3. KaliYugaWarrior

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    Thanks. I'm aware of that thread. Have read some stuff there in between sometimes.

    Do you have gerd issue or semen leakage issue? And how are you managing your professional life along with this? I feel like just quitting my job currently.

    Yeah we have to keep the hope, belief or whatever that is alive and just stick through the process.
     
  4. Cosmo1971

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    Bruh I’m in a year and a half. I’m still having wet dreams every couple weeks. It’s like clock work. I start feeling better then i have a wet dream and bam back in withdrawal. Having all the same symptoms as you. It’s a real drag. Terrified to date right now because of how embarrassing this is. Plus my libido is almost non existent from time to time.
     
  5. Cosmo1971

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    Are any of y’all smokers? How about drinking alcohol?
     
  6. KaliYugaWarrior

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    No man. Can't harm myself anymore than this.
     
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  7. Masked-Debater

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    GERD has been the bane of my existence for almost 20 years. Now just in the last couple months I have LPR too where it's all the way up in my throat causing wheezing, coughing, and soreness 24x7. Do yourself a huge favor and get a wedge pillow to sleep on. 7.5" works great when you add a soft pillow at the top. It's the reflux attacks in the middle of the night that destroy your esophagus and the pillow does a good job of preventing them. Diet matters too but elevated tilt is critical to healing your inflamed tissues. I was too stubborn to do this for far too long.

    Also, eating lots of nuts and seeds everyday will quickly help you add weight and make your bowels extremely regular. It's easy as hell to eat 1000 calories at a sitting. Just my advise on that front. It works.
     
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  8. Masked-Debater

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    Hey there @Cosmo1971, I saw in one of your profile posts that you said your visual symptoms are getting better. I've experienced many neurological symptoms that few people talk about having. Do your visual symptoms resemble these? If they do, please elaborate.

    Visual Snow
    Visual Trails / Tracers
    Oscillopsia (vision bouncing with movement)
    Wavy lines in vision on edges of objects
    Dizziness when looking at repetitive geometry
    Tinnitus
    Pressure in ears
    Intense muscular tension around eyes
    Feeling of rubber bands around head and face
     
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  9. KaliYugaWarrior

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    Thanks dude. I've ordered one wedge pillow. Will try and see how it works for me. Yeah diet is something I'm figuring out most of the time. Will have to seek a way out of this.
     
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  10. Cosmo1971

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    Just curious as to how alcohol affects y’all in flatline. I had to quit even my occasional drinking because i got ill from it.
     
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    Yes i have experienced all the above. It’s from your cortisol levels being so high. It causes inflammation which is why your head hurts, ears ring, and your all puffy. I have to pee all the time as well. But cortisol also stops neuroplasticity. It makes your brain unable to rewire itself the way it used too. That’s why your memory is messed up and it’s hard to concentrate. Your vision gets messed up because of the combination of inflammation and your motorskills being impaired from cortisol.
    You’ll come back when your cortisol levels drop. Your brain will then be able to rewire itself and adjust to the normal hormone levels.
    Your brain also releases acetylcholine during orgasm which enlarges the neurotransmitter in the brain. It does this to accept the high levels of dopamine released during orgasm. When your neurotransmitter get too large normal levels of dopamine seem low to the brain hence the depression and blah feeling during flatline. It’s tough getting through it but over the last couple months I’ve had a few days where i woke up with noticeable improvement. My cortisol levels must be dropping allowing my brain to recover. However im still having wetdreams alot. Just had three close calls last night but woke up before climax. Hope this helps.
     
  12. KaliYugaWarrior

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    Adding some more symptoms -

    • Knee Pain (started after 2 nightfalls in a row) - becoming worried about it now.
    • Can't really have a good laugh these days. Have some weird abdominal pain when I laugh. Have to place my hand on my stomach a bit to relax myself.
     
  13. Do you have a scientific citation of that?
     
  14. I have also experienced PAWS, i went beyond 100 days but i am still not feeling the way i want to be. My moods change relatively fast and i experience usual things such as anxiety, depression and whatnot at any random given moment

    My previous reboot prior to this one, which lasted 400 days of being PMO free i had PAWS for about few months after i completed the intial 90 day reboot, its really messy honestly
    But we got no other choice but to keep going
     
  15. wfcasdvwervdsv

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    Could you describe your PAWS experience and how it ended?
     
  16. Lmao this is the biggest bullshit on Nofap lol. I studied the neurobiology of sex, and the dopamine en acetylcholine connection you claim is not how it works lol. Maybe study the mesocorticolimbic pathway and study how orgasm works by studying the endocrine system, neurotransmitter and the central nervous system before spreading disinformation?
     
  17. In my previous streak they ended up around day 170 to 180, generally speaking i literally had almost no benefits until i reached apr. 170/180 days. The last days before these PAWS finished up were a living hell i was very suicidal, sad, anxious, nauseous, heavy brain fog. But around such period these withdrawals were very amplified, i remember at that day thinking i did irreversible effects to myself and that i'll just have to accept living like this for life. At one given point i thought i'd die, my heartbeat rate would suddenly increase at random points. This lasted for a week or two, and it kept amplifying day by day, it reached its peak, i thought of calling the suicide line i was mentally tortured so to speak.

    I went to sleep mentally exhausted and feeling defeated, since i had to find a way to live like this for life. That's what i thought to myself, but the day after i woke feeling a bit better and the day after i felt amazing. I thought its mood swings but around day 200 i realized that i am actually rebooted. Then i rolled up my sleeves and started reading books, interacting with people, being excited to learn new things, started eating healthy.

    However, i relapsed around day 400, which were followed up by streaks of going 40, then 60 days and now im currently sitting at 108 days. In my own case, i suffered withdrawals for 95 days since i relapsed. Every. Single. Day. it was terrible. Now, i am having urges and withdrawals combined into one. Withdrawals are lighter than they were at the beginning however they still do appear usually it appears in form of overthinking and anxiety, depression blended into one. Just like last time i believe i would heal around day 180, in these previous relapses i had, i did not binge at all, but i guess it was enough to bring out heavy withdrawals, unfortunately. But lets hope for the best, mood swings are still here and its very painful.

    Basically my PAWS include: anxiety, depression, mood swings, nausea, sometimes insomnia, increased heartbeat, irritability - these are the most prevalent
     
  18. Cosmo1971

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    Calm down fuck boy. I’m just going off what I’ve been told on here. There are no medical journals or doctors that I have seen or visited that even acknowledge porn addiction and sexual exhaustion as fact. If I knew it was i wouldn’t be here now would I?
     
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  19. wfcasdvwervdsv

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    Yes I'm way too familiar with the symptoms you describe. I'm on day 155 now, starting to lose hope and having thoughts that I've done irreversible damage, but your story has been very comforting so thank you for telling it. Hopefully I will follow a similar timeline to you and it'll be just a couple more weeks until this hell is over. Best of luck with your recovery mate!
     
  20. Some of us are just simply different. I felt so damn lost that reading success stories put me in even bigger bummer mood. I thought i really messed myself up and there was no way out, but in the end i noticed our mind will tell ourselves really bad things to make us feel bad enough to make us go back to porn.

    No matter what it is, our brain is undergoing big changes and unlike other people, we need to stay persistent and patient. Don't worry, you will be okay, and if anyone else is undergoing PAWS it is painful but it will pass. Nothing lasts for ever

    Right now i would just suggest you to avoid any potential stuff that might amplify the negative emotions. For me that would be bad news in general or negative people. Do something to get you distracted from negative emotions.
    If possible of course, sometimes i would feel so wrecked to the point i couldn't do anything and just suffer - in these kinds of moments it would be good to have someone to talk to

    Either way, don't worry everything will align itself into a better picture, the hard experience you will gain from this will make you appreciate your reboot and yourself more once you reboot yourself. We got this :emoji_muscle:
     

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