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Did I relapse?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by DarkHorse93, Aug 17, 2015.

  1. DarkHorse93

    DarkHorse93 Fapstronaut

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    This a few paragraphs long but also my most important post so far so I'd very much appreciate anyone looking through it and giving me feedback.

    So far I've been going decently strong. Going about 3 weeks, a few urges and bumps in the road, and even a couple of hellish days but I always got through and kept going. My original goal was no PMO: so I can't deliberately look at porn (images/videos that I would use as masturbation material) and I can't masturbate to orgasm (with or without porn). But something grey just happened to my black and white commitment.

    Since rebooting I've had a couple of wet dreams, which is fine, I personally don't consider this a relapse, they don't seem to effect my motivation, libido, confidence, etc. plus I can't control them. But lately these little occurrences have given me some minor problems. See, one night I woke up from a dream, and I couldn't remember what it was but I know that I almost came in my sleep, but didn't, and I while still half asleep I touched myself for a few seconds before falling back asleep. No big deal. Another time, while touching myself, I fully woke up and simply stopped. This gave me blue balls, which gave me urges, but I simply shrugged it off the shoulder and moved on. Last night it happened again. I woke up from a dream I couldn't remember, but it must have been sexual as I was really hard. While still half-asleep I reached down there and touched myself, and I actually came. As soon as this happened I fully woke up, realized what I'd done, and felt regret about it.

    The thing is, I have sleeping problems in general. I have insomnia. I also have dreams within dreams (like in the movie Inception) where I wake up from a dream within my dream, and then wake up in real life. I also have dreams where I realize it's not reality but can't wake up (which allows me to do certain things like flying). I also have dreams where I fully realize I'm asleep but can't wake up no matter how hard I try, like being trapped in a movie. Or the opposite, where I'm awake but can't control any of my motor movements and get out of bed, like being frozen in ice (this is the scariest sensation). What happened was more along the lines of the last thing I described. I was awake, realized I was awake, but had just woken up and was still half asleep and not really in control of my motor movements and I didn't have any inhibitions.

    So now the ultimate question: should I reset my timer? I feel like maybe I should see the long-term effects of this before I do. Or should I just have no mercy and no excuses and call this what it simply was: I jerked off, I fucked up, I relapsed. I feel like maybe I'm making excuses and should just accept this for what it is, a relapse. Then again, if I start over again and consider this day 0, it would honestly tempt me to have a "why bother since I'm at zero anyway" mentality. I almost feel like someone who got really drunk and had sex and then asked themselves if it counted lol. Ugh. So anyway, I want to know, what's your opinion?

    Edit: I'd also like to add really quick that mentally, I wasn't fantasizing about anything at all, it was purely physical, even autosexual ... like I was turned on by my own self, which is kind of weird as I don't identify as being autosexual ... but that's what happened. Just saying, in case what was happening in my head matters to the question. I mean, I think it does.
     
  2. Kenzo89

    Kenzo89 Guest

    What you are describing was not done intentionally therefore you have no control of it. Nobody M's whilst asleep which makes wet dreams normal. I don't consider your circumstance as a relapse.
     
  3. JoeinUSA

    JoeinUSA Fapstronaut

    If touching yourself to full O was involuntary in sleep or semi-sleep in the middle of a wet dream (like sleep walking even), I wouldn't count it, as it wasn't a voluntary act.
     
  4. 8BitsOfStuggling

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    Sounds like not a relapse in my opinion. You didn't seak out PMO, it kinda just happened while sleeping. Nothing you can do. Relapses I consider only things I can alter. That being said, if you get blackout drunk and fap, well you just relapsed. But sleep is a choice and necessity.
     
  5. ThatOneGuy56

    ThatOneGuy56 Fapstronaut

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    Doesn't really sound like a relapse to me you should be fine.
     
  6. Dizzy Lotus

    Dizzy Lotus Fapstronaut

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    I don't think you relapsed. I really don't think you did. You were nearly at your climax, and then started waking up. But you were still at least half asleep, so it's perfectly possible that it was not intentional, like you claim.
    Also, I've had those dreams too! When I was younger, I would always have nightmares. Like, really often. And I knew they were going to come, but I didn't know how to wake up. I've had a time where I just committed suicide as soon as I found out I was dreaming, because I didn't want another haunting nightmare. Later I learnt to wake up on command. It's still difficult, though. But now, when I have a nightmare (which hasn't happened for months) I go to a room where I'm alone and not being chased for a few seconds (of course I'm not always being chased, but that does often happen in my nightmares), and I try to open my eyes really hard. Like really, really hard. And then, in 11 of the 12 cases, I wake up. Phew.
    I've never tried flying yet. If this happens again, I should try it, but I probably won't remember to do so when I get my next nightmare.
    I know that wasn't really related to PMO, but I hope you don't mind, as I thought it was interesting.
     
  7. mv8652

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    No, you haven't relapsed. Whatever you dream and what you do automatically while waking up is involuntary. Also, the dreams that you describe are all within the normal range. Don't let them worry you.
     
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