Dopamine junkies

What I don't understand as a new person on here is that we thrive on dopamine through fapping\watching P and its seen as bad, but all humans are pretty much dopamine junkies.. We seek dopamine in all.sorts of ways get a dopamine rush.food, sport, love etc another ways. If we don't get it from fapping we get it from elsewhere. So who cares how and where you obtain dopamine. Why is it raised as a reaon why we shouldn't fap?

Sorry I'm not advocating fapping, I am just not sure why dopamine is such an issue. If it is bad, shouldnt we give up.all dopamine related activities when going through a nofap episode.

Joe

 

So someone enjoying themselves doing skydiving, fitness or eating a lot probably has the same issue and these are possibly types of escapism as well. Surely all of these activities release a lot of dopamine if this happens at the same time as pmo then we release too much dopamine overall.

I don't think the brain would know which activity causes the dopamine release. So however we do it, dopamine is good for. a short time. Therefore if we do short stints of pmo or fapping or skydiving, or sex with someone or eating its going to.collectively cause dopamine releases for a short period.

However if we drag a pmo.session out over 4 hours a day we get depleted and depressed. I think this is like.some drugs which make you release.all.of your hormones all at once until you get depleted and then crash. So for an addict with a build up of constant dopamine release until depleted patterns, every day that would be bad and they lose the.dopamine hit eventually.



So that means short bursts occasionally of any dopamine release is acceptable and doesn't do you any direct physiological harm, when it is not drug induced.

So after a 90 day period of nofap, an addict should return to.normal. and then they .would be fine to.purge through mo occassiobnally as long as they don't get addicted, don't fantacise, don't use it for an escape perhaps???

People who try to do nofap pmo ought not to.do really long episodes of sex during the nofap.period or that would feel like the same amount of dopamine being released in the brain.

Someone ramping up exercise or excessive eatng during a nofap period will.probably be releasing quite a bit of dopamine as well. So the brain would keep releasing the dopamine at similar levels as before nofap wouldn't it? So that would be counter productive surely.

But out of all of this P should never be done at all because it degrades us morally and encourages us to treat people badly, cuts us off from others etc. MO also cuts us off from.others rather selfishly And is escapism too.

So all I am saying is maybe people need to be weary maxing out their dopamine from any activity during a nofap nopmo period if the body needs to.recover from.a daily habit of dopamine depletion.

Lastly it seems.intuitive that after a nofap.period, we can return to.other activities that release dopamine (to replace old fap habits), but not too much over long periods or we are almost back where we started fromas far as our brain is concerned(but without the fapping)!

Do.we need to consider they amount of other dopamine we are burning from things other than PMO during a nofap period?

 

I agree P has so.many negatives its not worth it for.me

MO is bad when.addicted .

I also.think M could be used by sensible well person who.is.not addicted to purge intense feelings or as part of a sex relationship routine from time to time.

 

I'm not sure if I have a pmo.issue that I need resolving. my only issue is that there is a lot of P in society and therefore it is hard to avoid seeing it. If I M it would be about once a month and that is because I'm feeling so much tension it would be wise in my eyes at least to just get rid of it, so I can think clearly again.

 

What is a putt?

 

Hi Benjamin,

So focusing on an adverse stimuli that makes you go limp is a good way to combat your fetish. From my experience I might be attracted to a stimuli. Say it was toes, and i accidentally see toes, but then if I look further usually I can find a flaw or something that grosses me out. So I deliberately take on a critical hat and say, oh that's a fat toe, or its hairy or its defective or I bet its smelly or something that puts me off. (Ideally its something other than a sexual organ).

Yeah and don't paid your own nails, if you want to avoid a nail fetish you can do without that reminder all the time.

 

Yes bro, you definitely aren't gay. Just know that and live along a straight path. You don't need to.worry. gay isn't something that creeps up.on you and you have no control over. You have yo.invite and entertain being gay and then act on it to be gay. P does this to guys, they start thinking they are gay, and in your case its actually still a turn off.

Don't get me wrong if you fixate on their dicks it won't go well for you because you are inviting trouble that way. Just keep that door closed because there is nothing worthwhile behind that door.