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fu**ed up a date, everybody in, I need advice please

Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by Fighter911, Feb 8, 2021.

  1. Fighter911

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    so here we are, after years I decided to ask a girl out, a pretty one, she's amazing and I have a crush on her. well, I just wanted to know each other and relax, instead she was really "aggressive", she asked me to go to a sort of beach where people here go there just to do petting and so on....I was so emotionally fucked up, my heart rate was very high, my mouth dry as hell, so I suggested to go to a bar instead (i desperately need to drink something(orange juice) to calm down and have back my ability to speak). ok so she took my suggestion as a sort of refusal, and she started treating me like a friend. I didn't let her do this, mirroring her behaviour, I made her stop. so we finally went to this beach but I was completely uncomfortable, couldn't move a muscle, I wanted to kiss her but couldn't do it. I want to point out that I already had girls in the past, but they all kiss ed me first, so I am like a 15 yo boy at his first experience. I know some girls may find it tender, but I don't want that, I want her to consider me as a brave, strong man...by the way I am 29 :( and that's just the beginning, I feel so emotionally fucked up with girls, I have a so fucking low self esteem that having sex, without ed pills, is kinda impossible. what should I do? after years I finally had the courage to ask a girl out and now, well, i can understand the reason why I stopped dating girls. now it's five days I don't have PMO, but honestly, I'm sure it will help but at the same time I think there is something deeper. I regularly meet a psichologist and psychiatrist, regularly except now that i need them, but anyway they're both women, it would be kinda embarassing. what should I do?
     
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  2. primaljade

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    Sorry this part is unclear to me, I think it's good to seeing counselors for their perspective. What is the embarassing part? From my experience, as an socially awkward/anxious guy until my 30's, getting good with women required me to do a couple things:
    • Interact with a lot of women in person
    • Accept that failure, a lot of is, is part of the process
    Considering you've been thinking about this girl for years, you may be giving her too much credit by calling her amazing. You've haven't really dated her yet. When you *really* get to know someone, you'll see how flawed they are, find things that'll drive you nuts about them, and be more grounded.

    Next time in this situation, rather than saying "instead how bout we go to xyz" you can say "sure, right after I/we get a drink at the bar" so it's not so concrete. Not sure "treated you as a friend", but I'd guess that you're putting too much of your thinking onto her. On my dates this happens during some time gaps in between date areas/adventures, like riding in a taxi, walking to another place, going up an elevator...
     
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  3. p1n1983

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    She is pritty like a lot of other woman in the world. Don't put her in a pedestal from the start. You didn't know her.. she could be boring or have bad breath or have really bad behaviour. Start going to date with the idea of just havinf fun and getting to know the other person. If you like her and things scalate to kissing and something more just let it happen.

    The she was really interested in you and was ready to go. This is the easiest date to have.. she is going to make it easy for you to seduce her. When she is like this she is not going to reject you so you have nothing to worry about.

    Again, she was really into you. This are the dates that you have to enjoy, when a woman has high interest in you she is going to make everything she can to like you and have a good date.

    You weren't confident, you feared refusal, or not able to perform. You came to the date from a bad spot. This is not going to help you at all, in the beginning you can deal with it but it will turn a woman off.

    as bad as it can get. you are really afraid of woman in some kind of way, like you are afraid of the outcome of the date. Is ok to be afraid of a bomb.. fire.. but woman?? c'mon, if the date go bad move on. you are never going to see her again! it really doesn't matter.

    It all depend on how you comunicate that to her. You can easily tell her that you prefer to go to the bar first and maybe if she is lucky you can go to the beach after. Always talk from a confident place, no fear. She is really into you, nothing can go wrong if you keep your composture.

    Is ok to mirror the other person behaviour. Always do it but keep the mood of the date fun.

    If you are not confortable, just don't go there. never do something you don't want to do.
    You are really afraid of woman and rejection.. you are really afraid of everything that can go wrong instead of enjoying the other person company.
    Dating is about enjoying each other, getting to know each other and if you connect you can also enjoy the physicall interation. You are still looking at it at a mission, to get the girl, to do everything rigth and don't make mistakes.. you are cracking under pressure.. this is all in your head and it can be treathed.

    yeah.. the ones that have really high interest in you, but eventually all woman want a man that is more masculine that them.

    Is not about her, never do something for a woman. Be a brave, strong man for you. It doesn't matter what everybody else thinks. If you behave masculine everybody is going to see you like that, but if someone don't you really don't care.

    Work on that then, avoid porn for months and this is not going to be a problem anymore. Make a list of everything that is making you feel unworthy of a pritty woman and figure out the way to start to be confident about them.

    Work on yourself. More proud you are of yourself, more confident you are going to be around people. People is going to notice this and is going to start threating you different, with more respect. Woman are going to be more interested in you and this is going to give you even more confidence.

    Then tell them exactly that and that you need to chance them for a man so you can be able to speak freelly.
     
  4. Fighter911

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    wow! what can I say mate, I didn't expect an answer like this. I really appreciate. Now that you tell me this I can see my mistakes, the fact is I kinda came back to years ago when dating was to have sex, I've become more mature, I want sex yes but have a loving, passionate relationship with someone i love and who loves me back is more important. next time I will just have fun with her and try to know her better, unfortunately, as far as I can see, there are a lot of things I don't like in her personality, but she's very young, at her age I was a complete jerk. I see her next week. thanks mate, where are you from?
     
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  5. PanteriMauzer

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    Tchill out take it easy
     
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  6. p1n1983

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    Forget about a relationship then. You want a woman that is really compatible with you to be in a serious relationship. Why waste your time with a woman that have a LOT of bad things from the get go?

    don't make excuses for her. she is like this now, you are going to date her now. Maybe she can change in the future or maybe not, are you going to waist time waiting for her to change?

    Ok, practice with her. go out, have fun with her and relax. Also date other woman that have a personality more of your liking, there are a LOT of woman in the world, don't settle for the first woman you get.

    Argentina, but my "mentor" is coach Corey Wayne. He have a free book online and lots of videos about becoming a better man and having better interaction with woman.
     
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  7. Fighter911

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    yeah, i just wanted a feedback about my first date, but after that I worte her andtold her exactly what I think, cause she's dating another man and I told her I don't wann be a lover, or a spare wheel. anyway I'm seeing her next week, let's see...

    man I can believe it, I'm reading the same book!!!!!!! but I am just at page 21, wanna finish it by next week, did it help?
     
  8. Khufu

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    watch this movie a couple times, watch how ryan talks, acts, dresses, hes on point,
     
  9. p1n1983

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    Life changer, not only with woman.
     
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    Be outcome independent. Because you really have no control over the results.
     

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