Ok .. so I am a successful 14 day challenge Fapstronaught so far.. and still going looking for complete recovery.. and it's going really well so far as I can tell.. But one thing is bothering me.. I see so many nofappers saying. That along with stopping the viewing of sexual images of women in pictures and video that you also have to stop looking at real women in real life... And let me be clear here I'm saying women because I am a straight male if you are of a different preference just read this as you would for your preference.. that somehow averting your gaze from Pretty Woman that catches your eye is in some way helping you and I thought the whole problem is you're trying to retrain your mind to stop Desiring fake women in p*** and to desire real women in real life... I thought the goal was to have your body respond to real women again.. and the only way that I can see that you can do that is by looking at real women and thinking about real women and allowing your body to have a response to that... Oh but no so many nofappers say no oggling of women do not stare at real women and do not think sexual things about them... And yet the same nofappers will come on here and list the benefits of no fapping..... And this is where I see this huge hypocritical part of this whole thing... I see almost every success story claiming that there better looking and more confident and now women are staring at them so much more and they're happy about it.. so they are happy to be having women staring at them thinking possibly thinking sexual thoughts about them because you know that sometimes they probably are.. this is part of the main reason they are no fapping so that they can have this benefit.. so that they are more attractive to women now and get more stairs they talked on and on about this into success stories... But then turn right around and say oh but no no no you shouldn't do that you shouldn't stare at the real women and think anything about the real women and learn to avert your gaze and learn to be above that while they desire these women to do exactly what they're saying you shouldn't do and to stare at them and they're all happy if they are.. that my friends is the definition of hypocrite... So I don't understand how you can have it be a goal to change yourself in a way so that women will stare at you more because you want them to and yet for some reason somehow you believe that real women do not want you to stare at them while you are sitting there saying that you want real women to stare at you.. I did not come here to teach myself not to look at real women and desire real women I came here to teach myself to stop with the porn bullcrap... To rewire myself to be all about real women and to cure my Ed caused by pmo.... I think this whole idea of being here to become a better man and to not stare at real women anymore is stupid, I thought this place was supposed to be on curing internet p*** addiction and pied caused by it so that the men being affected in that way can stop living miserable lives.. real women had nothing to do with the problem I found myself in and I will not turn myself away from them in fact I'm here to try to turn myself back to them... Please tell me does anyone here feel the same way I do about this particular topic????