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Many people on the nofap forum are approaching nofap incorrectly

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by TIMMY0110, Sep 10, 2018.

  1. TIMMY0110

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    Hi Everybody,

    I have been adapted the nofap lifestyle for almost 1 year now. In the past 1 year I have had a few successes and multiple failures.

    Firstly, I would like to tell you that I have made several mistakes that I am mentioning below and I have come to this great realization only after multiple failures, by learning from the mistakes.

    Nofap is usually the effect rather than the cause. You may be fapping to porn because of boredom, loneliness, to relieve yourself from depression and so on. Whatever, the reason might be, acknowledge the real issue and start working toward solving these issues. If you do it, then nofap will come automatically.

    The big mistake most people do including me is thinking too much about nofap. To illustrate my point, close your eyes try "not to think of a polar bear" for 5 minutes. I am quite sure that most of you will be unsuccessful in doing so. Similarly, if all your focus is to not masturbate, then you will hard a very hard time in managing it.

    I am not telling you to just stop coming to the nofap forum. Use the nofap forum as a platform to get support, give support, share ideas and provide suggestions. Don't use the forum as a replacement for social media (the forum has discussion topics about almost everything). I have used the nofap forum as a replacement to social media, to escape boredom and instead I should have been focusing on being more social or engaging in activities that I find fulfilling.

    I believe that true nofap success is when you are on nofap by using a minimal amount of willpower. You can do 100, 200 or even 1 year of nofap using willpower alone. However, that is not the ideal case because willpower is an exhaustible resource. If you use all your willpower reserve only on nofap, then you will have none of it left for other things in life such as career enhancement, self improvement, staying healthy and so on. This will hinder your progress in life.

    The ideal case would be to use your willpower to start good habits such as Meditation, excercise, learning a new skill or a new language, facing your fears and so on. When you focus all your energy and willpower on improving your life, nofap will come to you on its own. Let Nofap be a byproduct of you focusing on your life.

    I view fapping to porn or drug addiction just as an escapism habit. Once you realize, what you are escaping from and stop escaping from it....the escapism habits (nofap in this case) will go away.

    Another huge mistake that I have done in the past was "Focusing too much on counting days and comparing myself with others"
    I have done the mistake of measuring nofap success only by the nofap counters. At one point I was so obsessed about it that nofap became a race for me rather than a lifestyle. Also, it is not wise to compare your nofap streak with someone else because, we all are in different stages in our nofap journey. The level of addiction varies from person to person. Therefore, comparing ourselves with others doesnot make sense. Focus on improving yourself thats all.

    Focusing on only counting the nofap days without focusing on life is something like "Going to the football stadium to watch the match, but focusing your attention only on the scoreboard screen instead of watching and enjoying the match". Of course, keeping score is important but not the only important thing.

    Also, Success is not final, failure is not fatal. Sometimes we succeed, sometimes we fail. Its important not to get emotionally attached by neither success or failure and focus on the present moment.

    I hope this thread made some sense and was helpful.

    Feel free to agree, disagree and comment on my views.

    Good Luck

    -Timmy
     
  2. Nice post bro.Really deep meaning...Thnxx for sharing this:)
     
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  3. Hello Timmy.
    Thank you for your great post, I've got some remarks and comments for the text above.

    I can only agree with this. The reason of this bad habit we are fighting might be different among us, but it is never in itself. The urge itself is not strongh enough to defeat you (or at least with some practice..), but there are other aspects. You might have wrong social life and therefore sit at the computer all day (and then the realpse is very quick and easy..). You may feel an intensive loneliness or you miss hobbys, etc.. especially after some time (months, or years in our case) it happens, that this habit seems as a only way to get a relieve from your everyday life. If you don't have some motivation and other activities which deserve your time and concentration, you will fade into bad mood and specific mindset where only way of relieve is masturbation (or alcohol, drug, whatever.. it works same for every addiction). In these states of mind, it is like if the world fades to the grey and only way to get to color back is in the addiction. Don't believe it. It is lie - you know it.

    Agree, again. I said something similar in my thread. This is a great place where to get support and help from guys like you. Or the way how to help others. But let's say, that you are feeling low and you are just sitting next to computer and chat here. It might work, but there is also a large danger of slip - just open another panel in browser and slip. What seems more apropriate to me, is just turn off the computer and go do something useful. Do some sports. Just go for a walk, or have a cup of good tea. Whatever. But don't turn your computer on, until you cheer up. This is very important.

    Very good point. You need to help some other methods, or you will suffer. And when you will feel low, you will have bad day, or whatever.. you might relapse.

    Another good point. And it is connected again with your time here. It's good if you reach month, or week if you are starting. That's great. But, if you are counting every day, every hour.. you are making it just worse for you. Because you are still attached to this habit. Bad way. Find some hobby, no.. find something which gives you higher sense - and go for it. You shouldn't just strech your will, you should better turn to something more important and this will just fade away naturally after some time. Moreover, masturbation won't be the thing, which makes the world colorful anymore. It will be your new goal.

    Thanks again for a great post. I've found some useful points for myself as well.
    Man up, guys. We will make it.
     
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  4. Uncomfortably Numb

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    I've read similar articles on focussing on the wrong thing. However, I believe we are all different and handle our addiction/recovery in different ways.
    It's subjective so what works for one person may not work for another... good luck on your journey
     
  5. TIMMY0110

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    Absolutely......we are similar to everybody is lot of ways. We are different than everybody in a lot of ways.
     
  6. Awakened & Aware

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    Thanks for the wonderful insights. So much wisdom in there!
     
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  7. Outstanding! These are things I’ve come to realize myself. I agree 100% with your post.

    Thanks!
     
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  8. JensonIknora

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    Great post brother!!!

    I totally agree with what you said. Fill yourself with activities, like exercise, gym, reading, meditation...etc.

    Once you're that, you're sure tired and no thinking about fapping.
     
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  9. It's important thing but careful, it's not only about tiredness in my opinion. Because you cannot exhaust yourself 24/7 - there will be oportunity to break your decision. What's more important is commitment to these activities. You won't masturbate because you don't need it to your hapiness. Maybe some of you don't agree, but this difference is crucial in my opinion. It's not about doing anything to stop masturbate. It's more about starting something meaningfull, so you will just stop this habit because it won't have any value for you anymore.

    But I am open to disscusion about this, of course.

    EDIT: Altough I agree that tiredness helps as well.
     
  10. Hahaidontcare12

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    Outstanding article my friend
    The whole article is absolutely true especially the point of counting days is 100% true very inspirational please keep posting like this and help us. I just relapsed today after a 23 days no PM and now iam Going to start hard mode (no PMO). Which mode did you follow hard or normal.
     
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  11. vulture175

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    I totally agree with this. Pmo give us pleasure, yet make you get painful later. Therefore, if there is something which can give us pleasure, we can just forget pmo naturally and focus on the new pleasure. However, the question is what is that?
     
  12. Well, I am afraid that I cannot advice. This will be very specific for everyone of us. You have to search on your own. It just has to be something of profound importance for you. If you are interested more in my point of view on this, check my first post at this forum. You might find it useful. I don't have more to say at the moment - I would just saying the same again.
     
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  13. This is a good point. I was thinking about this issue. What if I can't do the wall climbing? What if I can't travel? What if I'm stuck at home for some reason?

    I've a couple hobbies I can do at home that are better then porning and fapping. I haven't done them as much lately because I've been concentrating on getting out of the house. But I enjoy them and will return to them at some point.

    I can also read the books that I've started and sit unfinished. I can do my writing (non-erotic). We need to find happiness and fulfillment in several healthy things. In case we are unable to do one, we can do another.
     
  14. MasterRoshi

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    I couldn’t agree more. This has been my experience as well.

    Will power fails eventually because an addict can’t stop when they start and can’t stay stopped when they stop. So no use fighting that phenomena.

    Only after I stopped fighting PMO and started focusing on healing myself physically and mentally (in many different ways) did PMO become a memory rather than a craving or urge.

    Glad to see someone else explain this. The more this gets discussed I think the more a formula for long term sobriety gets hammered out.
     
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  15. JensonIknora

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    YEs. You have to start to do something meaningful that it will become a habit.I totally agree, that's why I said exercise, gym, swimming, reading book, meditation...etc. Even join a meetup group with a total stranger, which is putting you out of your comfort zone is enough for you to not thinking about fapping.
     
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  17. npatyk

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    Brilliantly well said man...
     
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  18. burfing

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    Hello Timmy,
    You are right. And a great post to noobies like us. Sure we should follow this. Thank you for sharing your experience and failures with us.
     
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  19. burfing

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    Very well written. Hats off. Thank you for thinking and sharing other side of the coin.
     
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  20. TIMMY0110

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    Hello Once again,

    I am glad that most of you again with me.

    Firstly, congrats for recognizing the devil so early in life. You are just 15...so you have started at the right time. I would suggest a hard mode to begin with. The reason being that, your brain is very fragile and can be a easy prey for triggers. After a decent time in hard mode, you can resume back to your normal sex life. How long should hard mode last???? that you have to decide.

    I know its none of my business....but since you are 15 years old, when you say "23 days no PM" does that mean you have sex regularly. Make sure you choose your partner wisely.....Again...just saying... I am not your parent.
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    One habit that has helped me immersely is Meditation.I have skeptical about it in the beginning...I read a lot of research papers about how meditation can be helpful in figting addictions. I have seen a lot of benefits after taking the practice seriously.

    The reason why meditation is so effective is because it is a Mind training activity and thoughts controlling practice. You are the reflection of your thoughts. Once you learn to control your thoughts, you can control your life.


    This video explains really well.

     
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