Masturbation without ejaculation

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by G1993, May 10, 2021.

  1. G1993

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    What are the harms of masturbating without ejaculation? I saw a YouTube video on taiosm, the guy was saying masturbating without O leads to longer sexual activity with a real women. Will appreciate all your thoughts on this please. Thanks
     
  2. Revanthegrey

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    I read a thread of a user here who tried to do that...doesn't have a good result(blood).
     
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  3. PeterGrip

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    This is subjective, but probably appropriate since this forum is for sex addicts:
    If I were to do it, the biggest harm I can think of is that I would reinforce the idea once again that masturbation is a part of who I am, instead of moving on to a better life.

    When you say prolonged sexual activity, do you mean the time it will take you to orgasm? Why are you interested in that?
     
  4. Drambuie

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    Thats just edging which is not a good idea. It will give you the same bad dopamine rush even if you dont ejaculate. I have tried to stop orgasm many times with this idea and it rarely works like 1%.
     
  5. G1993

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    Hmm I guess lasting longer in bed
     
  6. G1993

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    Can you elaborate on how it had a negative affect on you?
     
  7. Here's the thing, back in the old days those Taoists didn't have internet porn.

    And internet porn isn't real women.

    I'm guessing the video isn't in the context of PMO addiction, nor is it addressing the complex psychological issues that may be a part of it. It's not just a simple matter of what's going on physically.
     
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  8. G1993

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    Thank you for sharing your experience, it’s very inspiring and I am happy to hear that you have overcome your obstacles- something we all are trying to accomplish.

    Would you say that your problems stemmed from porn AND masturbation? One of the preconceived notions we tend to have with masturbation is that it is happening with porn, which 90% of the time is true. However, in my case I am not watching porn, I am not having headaches or my behaviour is not being adversely affected. Would you categorise this type of edging as dangerous or harmful? So masturbation without porn, without ejaculation ( this part is key, as it leads to headaches etc). Very keen to know your thoughts.
     
  9. G1993

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    Thanks, what about masturbation without porn and not ejaculating?
     
  10. Longtime27

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    In my experience if you M without O, you more than likely will feel a feeling of uneasiness due the lack of completion of the task... however maybe over time you can train your mind to overcome this.

    But as someone now trying to cut out MO (as well as the P), I find my hand straying towards my genital area on a far too regular basis. Why? Presumably because over a period of many years it has become somewhat of a relfex. Maybe if you plan to only M very sparsely there may be minimal negative effects. But given the context of PMO, it may prove to be a temptation as much as a challenge.

    I do think that reducing the amount of orgasm is healthy though (as orgasm itself is highly addictive) - perhaps it could be a stepping stone for you @G1993
     
  11. Not realistic once you have already developed that association in your mind through years or decades of doing the two together. If some kid in a corner of the world with no internet access STARTS out masturbating without porn that would be a different story, (and will they CONTINUE that way or will they get internet and porn access soon in todays world?) but that's not our story as seen from all these posts on this forum. That's why I personally still count and track MO without P - the thing is I will have some thoughts and those thoughts are influenced by the previous porn use, it's wired in as we say.

    Of course, I don't have porn related thoughts 24/7, but if I tried to masturbate without those chances are I won't even feel anything. I am not in a relationship and can't speak to that context, but then again it's like why are you masturbating if you have a partner? Long distance might be the only gray area but on one level it's not masturbating if you're not doing it by yourself, just the physical act I guess but you're presumably communicating with the partner.
     
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  12. Fat Boy

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    Trust me, this is impossible. Every time I try masturbating without porn or fantasy, I go back to hardcore porn a day or maybe a couple of days later. If you do one, you will eventually go back to doing the other 100%. They're so tied together in your brain that you will always want the other if you do one of them (think Pavlov's dogs).

    My last streak (65 days) ended because I "thought" masturbating without p was a normal and healthy behavior. Boy was I wrong. I Had CRAZY intense urges to watch porn like never before and went back to porn 2 days after the MO session.
     
  13. G1993

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    Hey thanks for sharing your thoughts.... I am actually in a long distance relationship. I’ve been masturbating without porn for a while now. When it comes to fantasy, I think about the interactions I had with my wife, not porn.
     
  14. G1993

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    Thanks, I think minimising is best
     
  15. Rents77

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    I kinda get the feeling that the OP is just looking for a positive reason to jump on the trigger, tbh o_O

    I would seriously not look to pursuit after @Jag45 and Fat Boy's comments!
     
  16. radhouane

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    be careful bro i tried this it makes having blue balls and so much pain and i saw an article they say it could hurt your liver and give you prostate cancer
     

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