NoFap and Porn Have Coffee Together

N: Glad you could join me.


P: Yeah, thanks for meeting.


N: I’m glad we’re getting a chance to really take a step back and look at things objectively. I hope you don’t take offense to any criticisms I have to offer.


P: I think we’ll be okay. I hope you don’t get offended at anything I have to say either.


N: I’ll do my best. Here, I think this is a good question to get us started. What do you think makes a high-quality life in those we interact with?


P: Hmm. I guess a fulfilling life for humans is one where your needs are met and you’re happy.


N: I think those are some reasonable things to want in life. I’d also say meaningful work, relationships, and hobbies comprise a meaningful life. Do you think you’re helping people achieve either of those?


P: I mean, sex is one of mankind’s oldest needs. If people can’t get sex, I think I’m providing a way for them to satisfy that urge in a healthy way.


N: But it’s undeniable you’re impacting more than just people who can’t get sex. You’re also involved with people who are in committed relationships, or even marriages. A lot of them are losing interest in their real life partners due, at least in part, to what you provide them.


P: I think too much of anything can be bad. You’re endorsing completely abstaining, which can’t be good either.


N: I’m not endorsing celibacy, only sexually healthy and responsible people.


P: I am too. I don’t follow. I help people healthily explore what they like when they can’t find sexual partners.


N: Again, though. It’s not limited to just people without partners. In either group, though, you’re offering a super stimulus that these peoples’ brains haven’t evolved for. It’s creating false expectations of what sex looks like in the users’ minds, even if on a subconscious level. They may know they’ll never get the kind of sexual activity you provide for them, though through basically the perspective of a voyeur, but it’s still conditioning them to only derive sexual gratification from super stimulating material.


P: How do you figure? Some people say they’re not bothered by it at all and have healthy relationships.


N: Sure, but many of those same people eventually experience problems with their partners. I could just as easily say there are tons of people who DO claim using you negatively affects their relationships, and not just with romantic partners, but with friends, co-workers, and so forth. It’s also undeniable that when a person has become conditioned to you, they’re less likely to pursue real romantic partners, as they know they’ll never live up to the kind of sexual experiences you offer.


P: I wouldn’t say undeniable. I’m not sure where you’re hearing that.


N: Men are having less sex than ever. You offer a short-term solution, but never deliver on getting them out of the house and meeting people. It’s not just affecting men, but they are your primary users and it’s clear there’s a deep problem.


P: So what? I never claimed to be the relationship healer. I make people feel good and take the edge off them when they’re feeling like they need a release.


N: I would imagine you think there are better ways of relieving anxiety than binge-eating candy and chips, right?


P: Yeah.


N: But I could make the same argument you just made for yourself for those things. They make the user feel good and provide momentary relief.


P: Again, I never said I should be relied upon like a crutch.


N: That’s the problem, though. You are even more accessible than junk food. All it takes is an internet connection and a locked door. You can’t really expect people to use you in moderation purely through willpower when you’re a few clicks away. This has been proven time and time again. Someone could be on a healthy diet kick, but the moment someone from the office brings in doughnuts, they’re tempted and they cave.


P: People will know on an individual level if they have a problem with me. I’m not making them watch.


N: I agree you aren’t making them. But you’re also not upfront about the potential consequences. Your industry is massive and I’m the little guy. We have seen time and time again how much I can help people with confidence, social anxiety, focus, mood, fulfillment, romantic relationships, regaining an interest in the little things in life, and on and on. You never share my side of the story.


P: So what are you looking for, a little NF Surgeon General’s warning before the clip starts?


N: I mean, that would be interesting. I just want this discussion to be a regular part of the whole dialogue concerning you. People don’t really know whether you’re inhibiting their ability to live the kind of life they want to live because they don’t know any different. They’ve never given themselves enough time away from you to see if what I have to offer “meets their needs,” as you put it, in a way that helps them become who they want to become.


P: It was never claimed that I could offer the full scope of what makes people happy and fulfilled. I exist only to offer sexual gratification and to make people feel good. You’re trying to shame them for doing what feels good and is natural.


N: You aren’t natural, though. You don’t display the kinds of sexual gratification that people get from their relationships.

You’re like a food loaded with tons of artificial flavoring that keeps the user wanting more and more. It’s little wonder people often progress to more hardcore kinds of you after use.


P: I say we leave it up to them. Neither of us can offer a fulfilling life by ourselves, but again, I never claimed to. I have a very limited purpose.


N: I feel I, on the other hand, can serve multiple purposes. The areas of life I can assist with can help people with their work, their interests, their friendships, their romantic and sex lives. There are so many who have used me as a way to launch themselves into lives they deem purposeful.


P: You’re allowed to think that. Why don’t I just do what I do, and you do what you do, and we leave it up to them?


N: I guess there’s no other way it could go. I hope people will learn more about each of us and make an informed decision.


P: Same here. Thanks for meeting.