NoFap and REM sleep

Discussion in 'Self Improvement' started by jaybelgium, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. jaybelgium

    jaybelgium Fapstronaut

    Recently I started reading "Why we sleep" by Matthew Walker. I have yet to finish the book but yesterday I came across the chapter about REM sleep. After reading this chapter it all clicked all of a sudden, how porn affects the abillity to get a good amount of REM sleep and how that in turn affects our lives.

    What is REM sleep?

    sleep or Rapid Eye Movement sleep is the state in which people dream. REM sleep has plenty more benefits but this is how people can recognize it. This is the state in which all muscles are completly relaxed and you start having dreams.

    During this state of the sleep cycle, the neurons in our brains fire rapidely, almost at the same speed as we are awake and try to comprehend what is happening in our surroundings.

    Start of REM sleep

    According to Matthew Walker, REM sleep is the biggest contributor to modern human life. Our ancestors were used to sleeping in trees to elevate them from predators, insects, bugs and such. Due to this one half of the brain continously needed to be awake (for muscle activity) so that we didn't fall out of the trees. As a result we could not have had any REM sleep, because it requires both brain halves to be at 'sleep'.

    The Homo Erectus discovered fire which allowed them to sleep on the ground level. The fire protected from big predators and the smoke that arose from it was a good reppelent against mosquitos and such. Because the homo erectus could sleep on the floor, no muscle activity was needed. This resulted in the start of the REM sleep for humans and ever since the human race dominated all species across the globe.

    What does REM sleep do?

    REM sleep is responsible for dreaming but also for the development of emotional IQ and the processing of long term memories.

    The reason why your neuros fire so rapidly during this fase of sleep is because they are analyzing all the information of the day and selecting which is important or not. The important information gets stored in the brain and links are being made with older data. This allows use to come up with creative new ideas and/or solutions.

    Furthermore it interpretates feelings and emotions that people have during the day, allowing them to gain more control over them.

    REM sleep and PMO

    A person who PMO's allot and becomes addicted, is marked by an apparent suppression of SWS and a complete suppression of REM sleep. Treatment with D2 (but not D1 ) dopamine receptor agonists recovers REM sleep in mice." While low D2 receptor density (common in addictions, including PMO) messes with slow-wave sleep a little, it has a MASSIVE impact on REM sleep. Low D2 receptor density in the brain=suppressed REM sleep=decreased dreaming, and less vivid dreaming, and less dream recall.

    YBOP has postulated that a clean reboot will ultimately upregulate D2 receptors in the brain. This probably at least partially explains a large portion of common nofap benefits (more energy, motivation, emotion, love, social skills, focus, etc) and DEFINITELY explains why nofappers commonly get to a point in their reboot where markedly vivid dreams begin to occur. And these vivid dreams often occur during or shortly before other major changes occur: a return of morning wood, end of flatline, end of PIED, superpowers, etc.

    Research that has been conducted show how important REM sleep is for people. In experiments scientists blocked the REM sleep of mice and what they found is that they were socially not engaging. This can also be found with baby's where the mother consumes alcohol during the pregnancy.


    For me this explains why people that are addicted to PMO have social anxiety, brain fog and bad school results. Because the lack of REM sleep they decrease their emotional IQ and decrease their ability to process new information and link it to 'old' data.

    So keep on sleeping guys and when you start to have vivid dreams, know that benefits are just around the corner
  2. Thanks for these info.I can relate with these as I am struggling with my concentration & memory & hoping to improve these .
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  3. OhWhenThe

    OhWhenThe Fapstronaut

    I can definitely vouch for this.

    I started having extremely vivid dreams around 40 days into my streak, problem was though that a lot of these dreams were porn related and I'd wake up feeling terrible as I was convinced I'd relapsed - I hadn't but it felt unbelievably real. Not long after this my libido returned at full force and morning wood which had come and gone during the streak became consistent etc. Unfortunately I relapsed at two months in and haven't been able to get back close to that since and as a result everything is gone again, occasionally I can still recall dreams but they're nowhere near as strong as before.
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  4. RaXaZ

    RaXaZ Fapstronaut
    NoFap Defender

    Quite interesting, my friend. The peculiarity of good sleep is hidden in the action preceding it.
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  5. psoh97

    psoh97 Fapstronaut

    The more I learn about how my brain/body get affected by excessive PMO and how it connects to other essential parts of life, the more I am left in disbelief at how much damage I did to my mental and emotional health.

    Really awesome stuff. I would be curious to see how your thoughts evolve as you read further.
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  6. :)-keepsmiling

    :)-keepsmiling Fapstronaut

    Hey there guys,
    This is something that I found over the Internet in the link down below...
    the Article rather chooses to talk against REM sleep. This is just to give further perspective.
    I will recommend to check this out!!!
  7. ThePeakWae

    ThePeakWae Fapstronaut

    In sum: To sleep like one else, you gotta Nofap like one else.

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