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John_smith007

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I’m probably not alone but I haven’t really read it anywhere so I decided to tell you guys my story. Curious about your thoughts.

I’m 23 and a male. I feel confident, I do a lot of sports and I have no problems talking with girls at all. I’ve had my share of sexual experiences. In general, I feel like my testosterone levels are lower than average. I don’t think about sex that much and when I hear friends talking about their thoughts on women, I can not relate at all because my world doesn’t revolve around sex. I watch porn about 4-6 times a week, sometimes more. I recently broke up with my girlfriend because I feel like I’m losing a lot of my freedom. I’m happiest being single at the moment.

I decided to give NoFap a go because of two reasons. The first being that two of my friends (who are quite porn-addicted) tried it and they gave up after a month. I just wanted to try it and see if I noticed any effects. The second reason is a bit more serious. Quite often I think about porn when having sex. It just gives me control on how long I can last/how fast I want to finish.

I started NoFap right when I started traveling with a friend. We’ve been traveling together for the last 6 weeks and without any trouble I managed to ‘stay clean’ these weeks. I’ve previously tried nofap November and that was pretty easy for me as well. However, a few days ago, I settled in a city in a foreign country to study here for half a year. Suddenly I’m alone. Within 4 days I relapsed.

Here’s what I experienced those weeks. I didn’t really feel any difference. My mind wasn’t any clearer and I didn’t feel stronger or more confident. The one thing I did feel, and quite strongly, was my different approach towards women. The last week I was literally checking out every girl, basically objectifying her, rating her face and body. I even made a Tinder account which I think is horrible because you’re literally picking people based on their looks and nothing else. After my relapse I feel so much better because I’m not so busy with women anymore. I’ve got my freedom back and I care a lot less what girls think of me.

I’ve got two questions for the community. 1: Is it normal that I hardly feel a difference? Would I have felt it if I managed for 90 days? And question 2: Is NoFap really good for you/society with regards to women? I see so many people talk about how they’re easily talking to girls, which I think is awesome. Especially for the less confident. But if it comes with a very sexual approach (mentally) to women, isn’t that exactly what we should try to get rid of? Isn’t that why we had international women’s day yesterday: to see women as normal people rather than objects? I totally agree to try to get rid of porn, as this does the exact same. But abstaining from masturbation to feel more masculine, and approach women for sex, just feels wrong. It certainly felt wrong for me.
 
Your used to having a girlfriend and having sex, you respect women nothing wrong with that. You should probably lay off the porn and use the energy to be productive doing other things. Most guys on hear are not only addicted to p.m.o but are having women issues which you don't. Nothing wrong with them doing NoFap and building confidence, reaching goals, and going after sex with women as long as they treat them with respect.
 
John_smith007 said:
No idea if this is the right place...

I’m probably not alone but I haven’t really read it anywhere so I decided to tell you guys my story. Curious about your thoughts.

I’m 23 and a male. I feel confident, I do a lot of sports and I have no problems talking with girls at all. I’ve had my share of sexual experiences. In general, I feel like my testosterone levels are lower than average. I don’t think about sex that much and when I hear friends talking about their thoughts on women, I can not relate at all because my world doesn’t revolve around sex. I watch porn about 4-6 times a week, sometimes more. I recently broke up with my girlfriend because I feel like I’m losing a lot of my freedom. I’m happiest being single at the moment.

I decided to give NoFap a go because of two reasons. The first being that two of my friends (who are quite porn-addicted) tried it and they gave up after a month. I just wanted to try it and see if I noticed any effects. The second reason is a bit more serious. Quite often I think about porn when having sex. It just gives me control on how long I can last/how fast I want to finish.

I started NoFap right when I started traveling with a friend. We’ve been traveling together for the last 6 weeks and without any trouble I managed to ‘stay clean’ these weeks. I’ve previously tried nofap November and that was pretty easy for me as well. However, a few days ago, I settled in a city in a foreign country to study here for half a year. Suddenly I’m alone. Within 4 days I relapsed.

Here’s what I experienced those weeks. I didn’t really feel any difference. My mind wasn’t any clearer and I didn’t feel stronger or more confident. The one thing I did feel, and quite strongly, was my different approach towards women. The last week I was literally checking out every girl, basically objectifying her, rating her face and body. I even made a Tinder account which I think is horrible because you’re literally picking people based on their looks and nothing else. After my relapse I feel so much better because I’m not so busy with women anymore. I’ve got my freedom back and I care a lot less what girls think of me.

I’ve got two questions for the community. 1: Is it normal that I hardly feel a difference? Would I have felt it if I managed for 90 days? And question 2: Is NoFap really good for you/society with regards to women? I see so many people talk about how they’re easily talking to girls, which I think is awesome. Especially for the less confident. But if it comes with a very sexual approach (mentally) to women, isn’t that exactly what we should try to get rid of? Isn’t that why we had international women’s day yesterday: to see women as normal people rather than objects? I totally agree to try to get rid of porn, as this does the exact same. But abstaining from masturbation to feel more masculine, and approach women for sex, just feels wrong. It certainly felt wrong for me.
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If it feels wrong do not do it.
 
John_smith007 said:
No idea if this is the right place...

I’m probably not alone but I haven’t really read it anywhere so I decided to tell you guys my story. Curious about your thoughts.

I’m 23 and a male. I feel confident, I do a lot of sports and I have no problems talking with girls at all. I’ve had my share of sexual experiences. In general, I feel like my testosterone levels are lower than average. I don’t think about sex that much and when I hear friends talking about their thoughts on women, I can not relate at all because my world doesn’t revolve around sex. I watch porn about 4-6 times a week, sometimes more. I recently broke up with my girlfriend because I feel like I’m losing a lot of my freedom. I’m happiest being single at the moment.

I decided to give NoFap a go because of two reasons. The first being that two of my friends (who are quite porn-addicted) tried it and they gave up after a month. I just wanted to try it and see if I noticed any effects. The second reason is a bit more serious. Quite often I think about porn when having sex. It just gives me control on how long I can last/how fast I want to finish.

I started NoFap right when I started traveling with a friend. We’ve been traveling together for the last 6 weeks and without any trouble I managed to ‘stay clean’ these weeks. I’ve previously tried nofap November and that was pretty easy for me as well. However, a few days ago, I settled in a city in a foreign country to study here for half a year. Suddenly I’m alone. Within 4 days I relapsed.

Here’s what I experienced those weeks. I didn’t really feel any difference. My mind wasn’t any clearer and I didn’t feel stronger or more confident. The one thing I did feel, and quite strongly, was my different approach towards women. The last week I was literally checking out every girl, basically objectifying her, rating her face and body. I even made a Tinder account which I think is horrible because you’re literally picking people based on their looks and nothing else. After my relapse I feel so much better because I’m not so busy with women anymore. I’ve got my freedom back and I care a lot less what girls think of me.

I’ve got two questions for the community. 1: Is it normal that I hardly feel a difference? Would I have felt it if I managed for 90 days? And question 2: Is NoFap really good for you/society with regards to women? I see so many people talk about how they’re easily talking to girls, which I think is awesome. Especially for the less confident. But if it comes with a very sexual approach (mentally) to women, isn’t that exactly what we should try to get rid of? Isn’t that why we had international women’s day yesterday: to see women as normal people rather than objects? I totally agree to try to get rid of porn, as this does the exact same. But abstaining from masturbation to feel more masculine, and approach women for sex, just feels wrong. It certainly felt wrong for me.
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I am a LOT older than you, and I don't even know if that makes a difference. But I have noticed a couple things and that is when I relapse after a significant streak anywhere from a couple weeks to over a year, it does feel good-- temporarily. As a matter of fact, my first thought is "How the hell have I gone without THIS?" As I say it fades. But for few blessed hours after relapse I am not thinking sexually at all. That's 'cause I have just fed the snake. (Ever see those pythons after they've swallowed something really big? They just lay there for awhile in bliss. Or those lions that just lay around after sex).... But if the relapse continues, I quickly get back into constant sexual fantasy and preoccupation. Standing in line at the grocery store, I am picturing every other person blowing me. That ONLY happens when I am PMO'ing and fades when I am not. Every time. You raise an interesting point about something feeling wrong (like abstaining from M to feel more masculine and approach women for sex). I think things can feel wrong because they are unfamiliar or new. I get the idea that if I abstain from PMO the chances go way up for sex with an actual person. And I don't think there is anything wrong with the sex drive itself. But I have found that my fapping doesn't really relieve anything except maybe in the moment,and it makes me more sexually preoccupied, not less, and again, every time I get into it, I move right back into the trap.
 
There is nothing wrong with sexual attraction, in fact one of the effects porn has on the mind is denaturalizing sexual desire to the point where it feels wrong. Everyone's brain has a certain neuronal pathway to interact with sexuality, and if yours is to objectify women in a superficial way trust me, masturbating to porn will only feed that beast. My diagnosis would be go for a 90 days+ streak, let that brain of yours rewire, then you will see a difference in the way you feel attracted towards women.
 
I have noticed my patterns of sexual attraction changing from fantasy to instinctive attraction. When I was using porn, I would see someone I thought was attractive and a fantasy would start playing out in my mind. Now (with a lot of mindfulness practice) the fantasies have pretty much gone, but from time to time I feel attraction in my body. It has nothing to do with my thinking - it's completely involuntary. It doesn't lead me to fantasise about women, and it does not cause any harm to my ordinary social relationships with them either. I don't feel any kind of thought-pressure to do anything about it. It's a rather pleasant feeling.

I believe that the fantasy-type attraction is not real sexual attraction, it's a dissociative state caused by porn and hypersexualised culture. The involuntary feeling in the body is real sexual attraction.
 
The post sounds like you are a proponent of porn. Have you ever talked to girls, what they go through when man frequently watch porn? Lately one told me that guys were texting her on tinder: that they own a leash and would like to go for a walk with her and stuff. WTF? This thoughts are definitly planted by industries, who not give a fuck about female integrity. Let alone think, what perverts they grow. Nobody should hate themselves for who they are, but some dudes would watch even more hardcore videos just to get another 4 second high. The thing is that you might feel no difference, but can you say other people delude themselves for no higher cause but the challenge itself? I doubt that.
 
John_smith007 said:
No idea if this is the right place...

I’m probably not alone but I haven’t really read it anywhere so I decided to tell you guys my story. Curious about your thoughts.

I’m 23 and a male. I feel confident, I do a lot of sports and I have no problems talking with girls at all. I’ve had my share of sexual experiences. In general, I feel like my testosterone levels are lower than average. I don’t think about sex that much and when I hear friends talking about their thoughts on women, I can not relate at all because my world doesn’t revolve around sex. I watch porn about 4-6 times a week, sometimes more. I recently broke up with my girlfriend because I feel like I’m losing a lot of my freedom. I’m happiest being single at the moment.

I decided to give NoFap a go because of two reasons. The first being that two of my friends (who are quite porn-addicted) tried it and they gave up after a month. I just wanted to try it and see if I noticed any effects. The second reason is a bit more serious. Quite often I think about porn when having sex. It just gives me control on how long I can last/how fast I want to finish.

I started NoFap right when I started traveling with a friend. We’ve been traveling together for the last 6 weeks and without any trouble I managed to ‘stay clean’ these weeks. I’ve previously tried nofap November and that was pretty easy for me as well. However, a few days ago, I settled in a city in a foreign country to study here for half a year. Suddenly I’m alone. Within 4 days I relapsed.

Here’s what I experienced those weeks. I didn’t really feel any difference. My mind wasn’t any clearer and I didn’t feel stronger or more confident. The one thing I did feel, and quite strongly, was my different approach towards women. The last week I was literally checking out every girl, basically objectifying her, rating her face and body. I even made a Tinder account which I think is horrible because you’re literally picking people based on their looks and nothing else. After my relapse I feel so much better because I’m not so busy with women anymore. I’ve got my freedom back and I care a lot less what girls think of me.

I’ve got two questions for the community. 1: Is it normal that I hardly feel a difference? Would I have felt it if I managed for 90 days? And question 2: Is NoFap really good for you/society with regards to women? I see so many people talk about how they’re easily talking to girls, which I think is awesome. Especially for the less confident. But if it comes with a very sexual approach (mentally) to women, isn’t that exactly what we should try to get rid of? Isn’t that why we had international women’s day yesterday: to see women as normal people rather than objects? I totally agree to try to get rid of porn, as this does the exact same. But abstaining from masturbation to feel more masculine, and approach women for sex, just feels wrong. It certainly felt wrong for me.
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You are a female troll .
 
Yeah it should feel good. It should be like whole body and for looong, not just half a second on the outer tip of the genital organ !! That is called health. Frequent, unskillful orgasm that ends up in burning ejaculation throws the energy away literally. Cultivate the power.
 
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