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So many depressed posts...

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Star Lord, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Star Lord

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    Just read my last post.
    ...I shall end with this statement.
    If you rely on antidepressants you will not naturally strengthen your brain to a healthy mentality...you will find when you come off them you slip back into negativity.
    They have side effects, more prominent in later life after prolonged use.
    Please just read what I type without slagging me off thinking I'm not helping.
    I'm not the reason your depressed. I'm trying to help you see the real reason for it.
    Good luck, and stop dismissing new ideas...good luck

    For the record I called nobody weak...please stop twisting my original posts content.

    Peace
     
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  2. The human failure

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    I'm not saying you didn't have depression >.< And I'm glad you managed to power through it's just that there's no one size fits all medication for depression. Powering through is what causes many people with depression to end up killing themselves. Medications are safer and even if they never seemed to work with me they help lots of other people live normal lives.
     
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  3. What do you have to back up your statements? Personal experience? Look, I respect that you try to help people out but this time I think you got it plain wrong. Depression can be everything from what you describe to something you can probably compare to being a soldier whose legs got blown off in war, just waiting for the pain to end. In that case the person should call the emergencies, not wait for positive thoughts to come along. Sometimes the depressed person are unable to see why they are depressed on their own. They need someone trained in understanding the human mind to help them out.
     
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  4. Star Lord

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    I just believe anti depressants are a blanket over the root cause of depression...
    Plus you become reliant on them for their effectiveness, just like any medication.
    As a result your body gets used to the effects over time, dosage gets higher, strength gets greater. Then you risk health risks and nearly all brain health risks turn you into a vegetable over time, so who wants that?

    @Nofapsincebirth i agree with you about seeking professional help.

    Maybe I should have put a massive message before my post saying
    I am not a professional, I am now immune to scrutiny over what I say.

    Now guys don't take this the wrong way but this is why I think I will quit giving advice based on my own experiences here.
    People ask questions
    I answer
    People grill me for my opinion and way of tackling challenges as if I'm some narrow minded ape who has no other ideas.

    Everything you all say I already know I just don't type the obvious...because...it's obvious.

    Also why are many people here quick to appose genuinely good ideologies etc.
    Alternative methods shouldn't just be shut down.
    Psychotherapist and antidepressants at $$$ per hour aren't always the immediate go to solution.

    Sometimes all it takes is a self evaluation of our own situations and feelings from a 3rd person view (looking at yourself in a mirror for example).

    If that doesn't work then sure you need help from the outside because clearly the mind in question is not strong enough to do it alone.

    I think the point I'm trying to make is this...
    Why do we all so quickly want help from others instead of fighting our own battles.
    Society today is all about telling people they are weak alone etc.
    This is not true, we are all individually strong and if we have problems we are stronger if we face them alone first rather than second.
    And if we are stronger from the get go then we can beat anything with a little secondary help if needed.
     
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  5. Star Lord

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    Now let's let this thread die and respect each others viewpoints.
    Before it becomes some civil war in here just like America after the 2016 election is over.
     
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  6. Thug Life

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    This thread gave me depression.
     
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  7. Star Lord

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    [​IMG]
     
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  8. LMAO :p Nice username.
     
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  9. SyrusDrake

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    Well...yes 0o
    That's...that's precisely what they are and intend to be...nobody expects anti-depressants to cure them of depression. Nobody expects painkillers to cure your broken leg but you'd still be glad to have them if your femur gets shattered by a falling rock...
     
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  10. vulture175

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    Thanks anti depressants for turning me into a fking lifeless zombie. not a vegetable, a stinky rotten meat loaf. 6 months - 1 year of everyday meds. The Dr suddenly stopped giving me meds, she wanted to get rid of her responsibility, she wanted to keep her meal on the table, your mental health problems, they don't give a shut. Meds are there to double the profits, not to treat patients. Patients are fking subjects in this experiment. How many mental ill patients can have only one med? None. All of them have to go thru at least 3 meds. Enough to turn the brain to trash.
    fk all those kind of doctors and all those kindof pharmacy. take your meds and fk yourself, fking heartless cunts.
     
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  11. The human failure

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    I wish I had meds. Hopefully I'll get some soon so I can stop being broken.
     
  12. Star Lord

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    Why do you assume I thought they did.
    That's why I said they were a blanket...not a cure.
    I would have added what you said to my post but that would have wasted about 1minute of typing when everyone clearly knows it's obvious...

    I'm not having a go at you...but I don't understand why you keep stating the obvious as if I don't already know.

    Peace
     
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  13. Star Lord

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    Well I'm glad at least you know that is all a big scam.
     
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  14. Alex Bee

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    Also, quit masturbating. You notice you always feel like shit after masturbating? You used up your dopamine, and in fact used some grey matter. Grey matter controls your neurons. Muscle control, and sensory perception such as seeing and hearing, memory, emotions, speech, decision making, and self-control.

    And I am not a medical professional or anything, so I can't really advise you or not take those pills. But, I will tell you one thing. Anti-depressants are not anti-depressants, they are DEPRESSANTS, they are just simply drugs to numb your emotions. Every time you stop taking those, you will start to withdrawal. Rebound terribly after it. You might as well stop now, and face the worse before its better.

    We can talk right here, or you can PM me because I know what I am talking about and I can actually console you. I had crippling depression before.
     
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  16. Hello everyone,
    I just deleted / edited some of the insulting posts you have made toward each other. Please remember that every fapstronaut is unique and is in a unique stage of life. Trying to help and encourage each other is very admirable, however we should not resort to insults when we disagree with each other. That will never help. Also, if another user is upset or offended by something we said, (even if we said it with pure intentions), it would be noble to simply apologise to them and possibly explain that we didn't mean to hurt their feelings.
    Please continue to debate / relate with each other on this thread (if you want to) - I will keep an eye on it though to make sure it remains civil.
    Regards,
    Rubidium :)
     
  17. I'll share my opinion on the actual topic;

    There are three components to a person: body, mind and spirit. Depression is a complicated illness because it can be caused by imbalance/poor health in any/all facets of our being. Thus it will manifest symptoms in any/all facets of our being. This is why there are many causes, types and treatments of/for depression.

    These are the ways we can be unhealthy, and some of the effects:

    If we neglect to eat a healthy diet, exercise regularly, and sleep well, chemicals in our body can get out of whack. This can cause us to feel lethargic, moody, physically unwell. Unhealthfulness in our body will affect the healthfulness of our mind...

    If we don't pursue human interaction we can feel disconnected from others. If we play way to many video games or fap to porn, our mind can get really clouded, our memory will suffer and we will be unmotivated. We won't want to be active so our fitness will suffer. An unhealthy mind can also affect our physical health...

    A trauma we experienced years ago but didn't properly heal from can have deep effects. They might not surface into our thoughts, but they are lurking, keeping our spirit broken. Loneliness, emptiness, hopelessness or purposelessness are some of the ways our spirit can hurt.


    So yeah, our depression can be caused by a lot of things. Sometimes all we need to do to get out of this hole is exercise. Go for a freaking run and so many endorphins will get released. You will feel fantastic afterwards. No? Maybe you got stuck in a negative mindset because of trying circumstances. Persistently remind yourself of everything you have to be grateful for, and that the future is what you make it.
    Broken spirit? To get out of my depression, it was imperative that I connected with God more to keep my spirit healthy. God communicates through the spirit realm and he is the one that really fills my inside up with peace and love. I am completely serious. Most people don't realise but that emptiness in you can't be properly filled with anything else. Porn, alcohol, sex, drugs, they can't satisfy the craving humans have for real spiritual connection. God could really help you out of depression. :)

    Antidepressants can sometimes be helpful. Sometimes we could be diligently keeping healthy, pursuing healthy relationships, etc, but our body just has an imbalance. An anomaly. Meds can most definitely help with this. But as others have mentioned, meds can only cover up any holes we have in us, they can't fill them.
    Professionals are also very helpful. If you are feeling suicidal, please, please seek help. Talk to somebody, anybody!! Talk to God if you like, he is listening! Professionals know more than me and besides prescribing meds which can sometimes be helpful, they can just be there to listen and counsel you. They can be objective, and could see past something that was blocking you. Maybe teach you some mindfulness activities to practise on your own.

    So in conclusion, there is not one simple solution. Some introspection would be advantageous to understand more of your problem. Or a professional could be an objective viewpoint, with a bunch of tools to help you with. Or, just consider the possibility that God is there and he cares for you so very much. Just call on him for help. He is there and he wants to connect.

    Rb

    tl;dr? Go back and read it!! :mad:
     
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  18. Star Lord

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    Thanks Rb. You are very down to earth.
     
  19. I found this thread both inspiring and interesting at the same time. I also found that the Ignore button helps with reducing negative status updates -- but not posts for some reason (I could be wrong).

    From my own experience medication can help, like has been said -- though it's only a part of what needs to be done to help an illness like depression...

    I agree. As you indicated in your post, there are a lot of factors involved.

    I understand where you're coming from, but I think drugs can be used to assist people out of their depression, though there's more to it like you say.

    Thanks for the interesting subject...

    *EDIT* Ignore button does work for posts and status updates.
     
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  20. That came so close to being pun of the millennium
     

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