Stop calling it "masturbation" or "jerking off", call it as it is - "stroking dick"

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by ultrafabber, Aug 22, 2019.

  1. ultrafabber

    ultrafabber Fapstronaut

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    This is the frame of mind that will help you stop.

    "Masturbation" or "jerking off" are very vague terms, they do not describe the action you're really doing.

    What you're really doing, regardless of what you think or imagine you're doing, is that you're stroking dick. And get pleasure from it.
     
  2. EXPONENTIALLY

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    The Bible calls it "spilling seeds", God highly disapproves.
     
  3. Advocate109

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    That makes it sound healthy dont do that
     
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  4. One Mic

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    I fail to see how. It sounds gross to me.
     
  5. Get behind me Satan

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    Sorry but this is completely irrelevant. You're trying to split hairs, that quite frankly aren't worth splitting. Either word has it's intended connotation - that being yes as you strangely state: 'stroking dick'.
     
  6. FrankAspie

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    I do stroke my dick and get pleasure from it.
    If you can accept that you are making love with yourself, that you like the feelings you are giving to yourself, then you will not need porn to masturbate to distract yourself.

    This is self erotism, and there is nothing wrong there.
     
  7. ultrafabber

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    No, "masturbation" is very vague, even if, yes it does mean the same thing.

    "Stroking dick" describes exactlt what you're doing.

    There's no such thing, it's a homosexual act.
     
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  8. MuscularSherlockHolmes

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    Lol, are you serious!
     
  9. IR254

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    And why's that? I don't see how that would make any difference at all.
     
  10. ultrafabber

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    There's no such thing, it's a homosexual act.
    A person that considers himself straight and wants to remain straight would not do homosexual acts.

    There is a very large survey by a known porn site that showed that the more pmo happens, the more likely the person is bi and less likely the person is straight.

    Imsult me for what?
     
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  11. IR254

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    What are you even talking about? And even more important: How would that help?

    Dude, do you really consider a survey by a porn site accurate scientific data? Please tell me you're joking.
     
  12. IGY

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    Get a life ultrafabber :rolleyes:
     
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  14. ultrafabber

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    Its a 11k people survey, so it is relatively accurate and it is in line with what would be expected - more bi/homosexual behavior since one is literally stroking a penis and usually sees another man's erect penis. It's straight-forward classical conditioning.

    More so it is also in line with the very numerous nofaps posts about gay tendencies in straight people, shemale porn and so much more.

    But it is both.
     
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  15. Advocate109

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    So first off, you are implying in 2019 that homosexuality is wrong.
    Second off, it takes two guys to pull off a homosexual act.
    Third, there are many guys who consider themselves strait and even put someone elses dick in their mouth let alone their own dick in their hand.
     
  16. Xander_

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    Focus on improving your lifestyle and overall quitting porn addiction, rather than thinking of right and wrong terms to masturbation...

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  17. ultrafabber

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    Yes, it makes no sense to be "right", not in 2019, not in 1900, not in 240.

    It doesnt take two people for a homosexual act, if a highly realistic male sex robot has sex with you, it's still homosexual.

    We dont need to discuss whether its right or wrong, but people need to be aware that if they want to be straight they need to stop masturbating
     
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  18. Advocate109

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    Strait men have masturbated since the beginning of humanity and guess what? They're still strait
     
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  19. ultrafabber

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    No, there is no evidence masturbation was common. It was considered a bad behavior in many if most cultures across the world. Chinese, aztecs, indians, all abrahamic religions and many more.
     
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  20. FrankAspie

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    I totally agree with Advocate109. There is nothing wrong with homosexuality. So if you are afraid that masturbation makes you homosexual, then it is not masturbation the problem. You might be judging, fearing or loathing homosexuality?

    "people need to be aware that if they want to be straight they need to stop masturbating" This is a bad advice. It is not simply not true. Completely wrong. And if you want stop masturbating for any legit reasons, adding this to your belief system is not good either. Because it is not a valid fact, and thus a weak belief that suggest that being homosexual is a bad thing that should be avoided.

    Masturbation doesn't turn straigh males into homosexuals. You'd have more homosexuals if that was the case. 80% of males masturbate regularly, and 60% female does it regularly.

    However,
    A men that is homosexual, or bi, but oblivious to it (he think he his straigh but isn't), will stumble on his sexual preference during sexual exploration. This is normal, and good. The only bad thing is the toxic shame and guilt one might have discovering this, and fear of being rejected by others.
    If such individual doesnt accept his sexual orientation and blame it on masturbation instead, then he will just be digging his psychological hellhole further.
    Some common reasons such indivual have issue accepting their orientation:
    - They judged other people. Thus they end up judging themselve severly, not accepting themselve.
    - They fear other people judgment and are affraid they will be rejected. common.

    I don't what other and older culture stance was on Masturbation. But I do know that Chinese were definitely not against it. Straight males would even do it together in a way to teach sexuality to teenagers. They were practicing things like orgasms without ejaculation, where you get full sexual gratification and salience without ejaculating. A men would ejaculate every 3 days, but masturbate every day and have many orgasms. Older men would ejaculate every 10 days. The goal of this was to "cultivate" sexual energy and satisfy their wife. Back then, not being sexually satisfied, was a good accepted reason for a wife to divorce.
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2019

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