Stop calling it "masturbation" or "jerking off", call it as it is - "stroking dick"

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by ultrafabber, Aug 22, 2019.

  1. MuscularSherlockHolmes

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    Do you realize how stupid this sounds!
     
  2. ultrafabber

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    Its more stupid to think that stroking a dick to climax and being sexually aroused doing it is not gay.

    We'll have to agree to disagree.

    Like i said, the huge survey that showed bisexuality was more prevalent the more one pmo-ed is telling on its own.

    The chinese culture overall was against masturbation.
     
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  3. Advocate109

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    Yeah you see you say that, but u said it's by a porn site, how does the porn site know whose bisexual? Also you have yet to provide any links to this study.

    Theres actually real research that states that most people in general are bisexual to an extent. My guess is you are homophobic because of your own past curiosities.
     
  4. ultrafabber

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    https://nypost.com/2019/02/26/people-who-watch-porn-are-more-likely-to-be-bisexual-study/


    The porn site does not know the sexual orientation of a user. It was a survey of 11k people and they answered various questions.

    Yes, bisexuality is on a spectrum. Homiphobia is not a word, a phobia is an irrational, pathological fear.

    I had no past curiosities and its weird to assume that. My only homosexual behavior was masturbation.
     
  5. Advocate109

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    Homiphobia isnt a word correct. Homophobia however is a word and you're showing signs of it
     
  6. IR254

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    Sorry, but it doesn't become much more unscientific than that. That's simply not a representative sample of people. Also you don't know anything about the methodolgy. To consider that "data" reliable is ridicouless.
     
  7. ultrafabber

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    You can be a smarty pants about it, but homophobia still isn't a word, so i can't show signs of something that does not exist.

    11k people is quite reliable. Of course there is plenty of room for better methodology but the writing is on the wall about it.

    There is also an unrelated survey showing bi/gay people pmo more than straight people
     
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  9. IR254

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    You follow the false premise, that a relatively high number of participants automatically results in reliable data. That's simply not correct. As long as you don't know what structure (age, gender, personal background, etc.) these people have, how the questions were formulated and how the collected data was analyzed, you can't say the data is reliable. And I personally have serious doubts about scientific standards being used, when the survey stems from a porn site.

    But even if we assume, that the data would be reliable: What is the data suggesting then (I don't know this survey)? That bi or gay people masturbate more than straight people? And that leads you to the conclusion, that masturbation makes you bi or gay?
     
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  10. ultrafabber

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    Again, there are definitely many ways a survey can be more reliable but sample size is a very good metric on its own.

    If there were just two groups, straight and bi, then yes, there was not that much (but still some) to take away from this. There are however 4 groups that show a definite correlation between time spent on porn and bisexuality and an inverse relationship between time spent on porn and heterosexuality.

    More so, they lack a category of "once per month or less" which would've made the trend even more obvious.

    There is, like i said before another survet, posted by lgbt sites, showing that bi/gay people masturbate more than heteros and that they start masturbating EARLIER.

    Last but not least, the theoretical aspect of it indicates that classical conditioning makes you associate stroking penis abd sexual arousal with pleasure, which is definitely not hetero.
     
  11. IR254

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    So you're saying masturbating makes you gay?
     
  12. ultrafabber

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    Gay is not something black and white, even Kinsey commented its on a continuum.

    Yes, masturbation wires you for homosexual acts.
     
  13. Captain!

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    Many of you are on the vicious cycle of masterbation, get out of this before you injure your health.
     

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  14. Max Fisher

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    Well shit...I thought I had found a loop hole.
     
  15. Max Fisher

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    I knew this one robot back in the day that wasnt that realistic. He struggled with SSA and I kept trying to assure him that in 2019 its much more acceptable to be open as a gaybot but he was built and programmed in a different time. Then I realize something! Why not just reprogram? I gave him the number to Geek Squad and never saw him again. I think he got married but he had to go to Europe because robot marriage even if its hetero is still banned on Mars.
     
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  16. recon117

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    wow!...
    I'm sorry but you lost me there
     
  17. need4realchg

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    Haha! Brilliant!

    There is a Netflix series that Netflix wants me to watch about a realistic sex bot. I have found the premise ridiculous but here it’s interesting.

    Sex with bots deserves its own thread max , will you do the honors ? Haha

    If beastiality gets its own name ... then what do the coming sexbots of the future get to be called ?

    What if in the future people prefer 3-d realistic, physical sex with cyborgs to human sex? What would be the ethical implications?

    I beg you to start a thread with this... it just had my socio-ethics-mind watering...
     
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  18. Max Fisher

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    Probably human names like Karen, Alice, Fred etc. It would be hard to have sex with a generic model number I would think.
     
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  19. Max Fisher

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    Well if they have rights I think consent would be the biggest ethical implication. You wouldnt want to be accused of robot rape.
     
  20. need4realchg

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    Hell yes. I needed that. A place where rape is subtly permitted because the vagina is not real, and it’s host is not socially capable. Man. That was a beautiful paradox.

    A conscious-less, sexual creation rejecting sexual advances from a human amounts to “robotic rape.”

    So what do you call it when the sex bot rapes the human ?
     
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