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What is Jordan Peterson's view on pornohraphy?

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Pauley, Dec 18, 2022.

  1. USER_ERROR

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    I don’t know all that much about the amish but I wouldn’t say that they are either primitive or have a dictatorship. Seem to me more like a bunch of people lording it over their women and willingly given up modern appliance which they don’t really need, this doesn’t them primitives. A from from what i have seen about them they seem fairly peaceful, them having a strict lifestyle doesn't make them dictatorial especially when their main mean of reprimanding people seem to be shunning them.

    You might have some small isolated cults where a charismatic ruler exercise significant power but they usually consist of an extended family and a few friends plus an disproportionate ratio of women to men. Even then you won’t find any Stalin there casually handing down death quotas or a guy like Saddam terrorizing the whole population.

    Dictatorship as I understand it is one ruler exercising absolute power over his subjects mainly due to his monopoly on violence as well as control over communication and information. This is why it is much harder to be a dictator in a small community, if they have enough of you there is a good chance they can take you down in a revolt/rebellion but in a true dictatorship it is practically impossible for the people to do it; when you say they fail you must refer to popular recent example like the Soviet Union I’d guess but then it only failed because it was the rulers themselves who tried to liberalize their nation, a more forceful ruler than Gorbachev would simply have imprisoned Yeltsin or send him to Siberia and instead of allowing their eastern republics to vote themselves out of the union simply send tanks there as they did before, no one could have or would have done anything about it, think Chechnya.

    It is like how despotism came to be in europe, back in antique Greece they were fairly democratic when it was just small city states although you had the occasional tyrant those were mainly due to popular revolt and weren’t all that powerful or durable, but with the rise of Macedonia they became increasingly more autocratic and popular revolt succeeding became a thing of the past. Same thing with the roman republic really.

    You look at small tribes or hunter gathering societies today they tend to be either egalitarians or with a leader that has only symbolic power, in these societies it is very easy for a war to start and very hard to end it. All it take for a conflict to start is a few individuals having a dispute and a growing cycle of vengeance while for there to be peace either their leaders or the representatives of their community must take the grievance of everyone involved in consideration, a modern executive leader on the other hand can just negotiate directly with the other party then declare peace regardless of your own feeling, it is however just as easy for him to start a war. It is also much easier for such a leader to have an effective fighting force, this is why in time of crisis people always favor a dictator or near-dictator.

    But just look at modern societies today, of the top ten most populous countries how many can be said to be non-dictatorial? India itself, the biggest democracy in the world can be fairly dictatorial as they have been known to repress communities, shut down the internet or other means of communication and have in the past used their armed force to crack down on separatist movement. Only the US is truly democratic and they have a lot of measures in place to keep the country from becoming dictatorial although the federal government is more powerful today than in the time of the founding fathers.

    Even all the other stables democracies usually went through a period of dictatorship before liberalizing, post ww2 the US promoted a lot of regimes like these as they were the only thing capable of stopping communism and then they later democratized due to improving standard of living with a growing middle class and also american pressure, South Korea for example only became a democracy about 3 decades ago. Democracy and freedom are fragile things.
     
  2. FormerLeatherneck

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    I went through my Jordan phase back when he was new on the scene around 2018. He was like a rock star back then. Since then his daughter Mikaila has been riding the coattails of his success. I deeply despise Mikaila.
     
  3. Semtex

    Semtex Fapstronaut

    You write beautifully and I feel guilty for making you do it because when I spoke about despotism I meant the imposing of a certain way of life on members of society which gets progressively more difficult as population size, inhabited area and technological capacity increases. This difficulty is what then leads to correspondingly more powerful and sophisticated state structures being required to enforce the same paradigms which can be on a tiny scale enforced even without any authority at all, apart of heads of families.
     
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  4. she-dernatinus

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    I swear to GOD, Jordan Peterson lost his mind. There's no way he didn't. What is that even supposed to mean ?
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  5. she-dernatinus

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    It nice that you mention the OKcupid statistics, because when I did my research this is what I found, according to this link :
    1) It's true that men rate women's attractiveness more generously than women rate men's attractiveness
    2) Despite their generous ratings, men tend to primarily message the most attractive women, and usually ignore many of the women they find reasonably attractive. For women , it's the exact opposite.

    There's also a couple of details you need to keep in mind while reading data from dating apps. One key factor is that dating apps often have more men than women. This is because women may be more likely to experience harassment and unsolicited explicit messages, as well as fear encountering unstable or dangerous men, which can discourage them from using dating apps.

    Another thing to consider is that women tend to put more effort into their dating app pictures in order to accentuate their attractiveness, while men may not feel the same pressure to do so. These factors can also influence the attractiveness ratings on dating apps. So, before you draw any conclusions from the data on dating apps, remember to take these nuances into account.
     
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  6. Semtex

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    You need to read his insightful work to find out
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  7. she-dernatinus

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    Maybe I will, it sounds fun. Although I believe it would be more useful to you, you're the one with the penis.
     
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  8. Netanyahu is the prime minister of Israel, as far as I know, which is a Middle Eastern democracy. I lack a clue of whether those allegations are true of false. But you don't need to ignore 100% of someone's opinions due to one mistake or many. I recommend you not to idolize or demonize people. Judge their right and wrong ideas through your own heart, reason and intuition.
     
  9. Semtex

    Semtex Fapstronaut

    Jesse Lee Peterson > Jordan Peterson
     
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  10. AbTheAb

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    it's not a democracy, it's a jewish theocracy with a long list of crimes against humanity pretending as a democracy. Look up the jewish nation-state law. Really there are no shortage of crimes they commit everyday. jews all over the world: Chinese, Indians, Russians, Americans, etc.. are allowed to immigrate to the occupied lands but the native Palestinians are systematically expelled.

    And by now anyone who researched September 11th knows about Netanyahu's involvement. You can research Larry Silverstein, he was a close friend of Netanyahu and called him frequently before the attack. You can also look up Netanyahu's video with Menachem Mendel Schneerson. To ssee an entertaining documentary about it, go to bitchute.com and search for: "9 11 predictive programming fight club" or read Christopher Bollyn's Solving 9-11

    You make it sound as if Peterson simply tripped over or made a harmless mistake, you cannot support someone like Netanyahu without knowing the very basics of occupation or who you are talking to. Peterson knew! But I suppose anyways one should read for all and always have scrutiny regardless of the malevolence of the person involved, even if he was as big a fraudster as Peterson so I guess in that you have a point.
     
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  11. My point isn't for we to blind ourselves at people's errs, but not to let them cloud our judgement. It's self-evident that devils indeed exist. Those are called men. The allies should have created a Jewish state on Germany, the war perpetrator, not on a land that had nothing to do with it for a religious book's sake. The Jews, however, are normal human beings like everybody else. I only hope you can see that.
     

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