What's the Final Stage of a Porn Addict ?

PMO is to the mind\soul what krokodil is to the body...

 

Everybody is different. Good on you for not escalating in that way.

But some people did, including me. Hell, I escalated to the point where I was watching sissy porn and wanted to become trans.

We all grew up different and are therefore going to have different proclivities. I identify as heterosexual.

But that doesn't really matter honestly. These labels, "gay", "straight", "trans", are labels created by society, and you can choose to interact them as you wish.

What you do in your personal life matters a lot more.

 

Exactly we all go through different experiences and difficulties that mold us. The fact that the thought of a man after litterally makes me shudder and anything masculine repulses me I’m not too bothered if others think I’m gay or not. It escalated over years and there were also a lot of other factors that pushed it in that direction. Finally after all of the attempts, work and alterations I’ve made. They don’t do it for me anymore thank something.

 

Oh yea and I haven’t watched real porn in months which will make a massive difference too

 

It's a bottomless bucket, there is no end.

 

Sorry, I didn't read every nuanced response everyone made. But it seems like many of the answers involve just escalating levels of damage and depravity. What is the final stage of a porn addict? It's death. Uncontrolled addiction is a downward spiral into death. Drugs and alcohol often lead to overdosing or dying in a car accident. That doesn't happen with porn. Porn addiction can lead to rock-bottom scenarios such as loss of employment, trouble with the law, losing your family, or jumping to a more harmful addictive behavior.

In the book "The Addictive Personality - Understanding the Addictive Process and Compulsive Behavior" by Craig Nakken, he details what an addict feels in the final stage of addiction. The addiction is in full-control of a person's behavior. He does not care what happens to others or himself. At some point the addict is unable to medicate the pain of his actions. His behavior is no longer enjoyable but he does it anyway.

He explains that his Addict Logic breaks down in that he knows his behavior no longer brings him any happiness. He knows he is a slave and is unable to break free. His hope is gone. He no longer has a coping skill that helps him get through the day. He no longer has something to distract him from the disaster his life has become.

Real-world consequences start to pile up. The stress on his body and mind is overwhelming. They seriously believe that suicide is the only way to end the pain. or they may hate the Addict part of themselves and want to literally kill it. No one hates the Addict side of themselves more than the person suffering it.

Mental health issues are common in addicts. So is low self-esteem and self-worth. I bet a majority of us here have had suicidal thoughts at some point in our lives. And we may be battling right now to keep those thoughts from rising to the surface. A person will spiral down into destruction unless there is an intervention. The sooner a person seeks treatment, the greater their chances of recovery.

 

One of the worst points I had reached was acquiring a chastity cage & drowning myself in "bnwo" twitter brainwashing chambers for hours on end. Admidst such places I have seen even worse levels. I have reached points of sexual confusion, and also feelings of inferiority. "How can I go on as a man anymore?" I have hurt my identity. I have hurt myself in alot of different ways. But still, there are far worse places one can reach. Places even further beyond anything human or natural anymore...

 

Last stage of addiction is suicide. With lost sensitivity to happy hormones living becomes insufferable.

 

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He will become a psychopath
a serial killer
a sadist
a cuckold
a danger to society
child rapist
etc etc
He will also become a man who at last will end up dead either by suicide or by the law

 

I was thinking the same thing, but in a different way - or two different ways. In both cases you don't need to physically die, in the first sense you can just be so far gone that any trace of who you were or in the case of being exposed when very young, your potential is just gone being like a zombie so there's death before physical death in that sense.

Other than that, there's also the possibility the porn addict personality dies completely so you are a completely different person. Not the same person that maintains abstinence mind you, I mean whatever that makes you you that contributed to acting out through PMO is just gone. It's like if you had a gaming console and the console is gone and you just have the controller and other stuff. Even if there's some of the game media (like the memory of porn content) you have nothing to play it on anymore.

I think the second sense of 'dying before you die' or the inner addict dying is very rare, but it is possible. It's also why I just don't buy a lot of the talk/testimonial in traditional recovery meeting shares or think that's the ultimate, it's like they try too hard to attribute it to the program, and often the way they talk about it kind of indicates they have to do all of that to stay abstinent. I think a person can choose to stick around and be of service, but if you die in this sense it isn't a matter of running around doing a lot of stuff to distract yourself from acting out. In that sense what they are doing to prevent the acting out is kind of like life extension, and death in this sense is like a rebirth.

I don't think we can make this happen, it's probably just something that happens in life like a traumatic event and to me it isn't about fixing like the way most people think of healing from trauma, it's more like to fully learn the lesson in the deepest way so that it isn't just a thought in your head, but to allow it to change you.

To play with the word stage, in another sense the way some participate in recovery communities can be like the Shakespear sense of "all the world's a stage" where people seek attention. But death in this sense, in this context would be like you walk OFF the stage. It could be the porn stage in your mind, or the "look at me recover" stage of some self-help group, but the fact that one walks off it means no more of this social influence business, you're done being that fiction and it doesn't matter what everyone else thinks, I supposed we could say it includes the stage of social approval and whatever is socially accepted so that won't mean shit even if 99.9% of the world and of this community change their mind and start saying hey AI VR porn is fine and healthy and even give you free state of the art equipment. It's the death of the false self, even if the false self is in the name of recovery.

 

I should say too that can come before the other kind of death that results in a kind of rebirth, traditionally they would call that hitting bottom in 12 Step. What I wonder about is how much of the second kind actually happens in traditional recovery groups or if they even really understand it, because the language doesn't seem to indicate that but some people in spiritual circles will describe it. The tricky thing is what most people consider a bad thing isn't always, (but it can absolutely feel like it) and with this I think a lot of people may recognize a bottom but few of those people probably recognize even the possibility of the second kind. But there's a reason why different cultures has this symbol of the phoenix, they knew something about how that happens.

 

Well not all, I think a few probably had it experientially but I haven't seen it clearly outlined in the literature and over time I believe the culture has taken a life of its own and certain accepted patterns do not seem to actually have a basis in the literature. On the other hand a completely different program, say one based on Buddhism does not seem immune to this kind of cultural influence even though or perhaps because some of it isn't actually a part of the 12 Step program, and unfortunately people in those don't seem to be aware of what Buddhism actually says, partly because it's a simplified version designed for recovery but partly just because people don't pay attention. But anyway I will say though as a metaphor at least a rebirth is more compelling to me than a reboot. You reboot your computer and it's still loading the same operating system, the implication of a rebirth is there is a different life potential that goes beyond even a reprogramming of the system. . or maybe we could say there was always another system underneath that was always there.

Or, maybe we could say the end of the addict is the beginning of something else. Being that addiction recovery programs are for that purpose it is at that point beyond what they are designed to address, and there's no reason to believe people focused on that issue knows the new territory.

 

The final stage is probably when you look at stuff, you would never normally look at but your brain has been rewired so much that you need more extreme things, Its time to turn back at that point.

 

I have been in such dark places that I've had a taste of this experience. I think it's like a late-stage drug addict where your mind is so controlled by the drug that your body, what's left of it, just acts like a robot in service of the addiction. Your personality is changed to something more like a primitive animal, just always seeking that next hit without any consideration for what it means to you or those around you. Your soul seems lost, obscured by the endless and worsening addiction cycle. It is a kind of living hell where you've lost your humanity and are just operating like a computer program on infinite loop - no purpose, no hope, no end (until the computer itself is destroyed, i.e. you experience actual physical death.)

I think many of us long-term addicts have felt the potential of such a fate, if only for the moments when we're in the throes of a serious binge. We've felt that out-of-body kind of state where it's like we're observing our actions, and even though some buried part of us is repulsed by what we're doing, we continue on as we chase the high, again. These are the moments where we may feel we're losing the battle, that we have no control, that we might as well surrender to the spiral downwards. But, this is the drug/porn talking. It wants us to feel powerless, so it can gain even more control. We must remember that until we actually die the battle is never totally lost. We can always fight back and reclaim our bodies, minds, and souls. No matter how far we've fallen, deep down our spirit is still in there, even if just barely flickering at that point. We can make a stand, choose light over darkness, choose self-respect, choose hope - and regain ownership of our own life.

 

That is an interesting question. Allow me to think aloud here. I think I pretty much fall in this category. I just think that I live a double life, no one really knows my private life. I haven't mixed up my perverse indulgences online into my real life with anyone, be it at home, with friends or at work. I maintain a clean image there.

Back to my private life, I do not think there is a final stage for me, there is no rock bottom! I do know I am not satisfied with the entire range of porn available and hunt for more that I like. I don't want to pay for cam stuff, perhaps to hide my identity. I don't feel getting actually living such fantasy with women or hire pros either. The borderline in porn that I have indulged with is trans solo or trans on women.

 

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