Why people hate Incels?

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by embodiment of luck, Jun 22, 2020.

  1. CodeTalker

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    Well about that...


    It’s actually really sad. If they believe such things, they can only get depressed. And I mean unless you only live on internet and never meet people, how can you believe that. Those people need to go out and not be in close circuit between incels.
     
  2. MuscularSherlockHolmes

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    Lmao! I just imagined a 1000 woofers woofing! Lord! The din! :D:p
    Must be a sight to behold! (I know I am silly, lol, still this image is hilariously cute in my mental eye.)
     
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  3. embodiment of luck

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    No, Science doesn't have answers to everything, but you can't use an example from an animal world and use it as a prof of human potential to change a gender, because there is a difference between animals and human, and there is difference between animal surgeons and human surgeons. If using science is such a foolish thing to you can you explain why we use it since an ancient times to the present day, and why can't we rely on since of gender, chromosomes and hormones? Is there any scientific paper that shows inaccuracy in our understanding of basics biology? Even in cases of intersex it is possible to
    determined which gender is a person, by using basics of biology.
     
  4. embodiment of luck

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    This depends on what kind of incel are we talking about, if he is normal guy, hard working, has a job, and is a
    decent person it is still possible that he is not gonna get laid, because promiscuous women is not necessary going to be
    attracted to such a man.
     
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  5. embodiment of luck

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    I don't think we have the same picture on incels, you see them as a grup of people who don't respect women and all that
    nasty things. Of course you will find those kind of people but you will also find that kind of people who are not incels, right?
    If you want to understand my point of view watch this video:
     
  6. Nikephoros

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    As a somewhat promiscuous woman before my marriage, here is my thought process:

    I only get to have one sexual partner for my entire life? I'm gonna find the guy that is the most sexually exciting thing that ever made my lady parts tingle.

    I can have as many partners as I want? Pretty much any dude who doesn't give me the creeps and has decent hygiene is fair game. I've lost nothing by sleeping with someone that maybe later I decide isn't for me.

    Incels have this bizarre, self-defeating ideology that women only want rich, model-attractive dudes. Which is ironic, because incels tend to be the male versions of these women: they look at Instagram models and 'uglier' women are ultimately invisible to them. Incels think they are owed a 'perfect' woman. And these 'perfect women' do tend to be the ones that want the millionaire with the 6 pack - a guy to pay for their surgeries, their botox, the exotic vacations they wow their followers with. And when you're wowing your followers with a lifestyle, you've got to have the perfect looking dude to go with it. They're looking for a lifestyle, not a partner.

    I'm not saying that there aren't ugly woman who are still holding out for the guy with millions and a 6 pack, and I'm not saying there aren't legitimately good dudes struggling to date/have sex. However when I was overweight, depressed, socially inept and dressed like shit, guys weren't into me either. It wasn't until I got my shit together somewhat that anyone paid any attention to me, and even after that most of my relationships/sexual encounters happened because I was the aggressor in some way. I wasn't getting what I wanted so I had to adapt. Incels aren't getting what they want, and they think the world needs to change for them.

    I probably won't bother arguing anymore, because I'm either preaching to the choir or ranting to deaf ears. But ultimately, the more you spend time in self-pity bemoaning that you don't have what you want, the less likely you ever are to get it.
     
  7. StarRider

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    This is because "incels" are made up and only exist on the Internet.

    Maybe they are made up for women to relate? So they can start hating on men - which is exactly what the porn industry wants...

    That says "porn industry" to me. Because who could have an interest in "incels", "MGTOW" and other memes like that? Of course the porn industry trying to get men on the fence into more and exclusive porn use.

    If the so-called "incel" would exist in reality, I would know one for sure. In fact I know a guy, who is repulsively ugly. Wears half an inch think glasses on top of it, because he is almost blind, lives in his mum's basement with a huge collection of exotic computers from the past, draws manga pictures. Should I go on? This is the textbook nerd, "who has never seen a V" according to the porn industry and I'm pretty sure, they have fetish material covering exactly that stereotype.

    Yet this guy has had sex at least once. How do I know that? From him bragging about it? No. From the woman admitting sleeping with him after sleeping with me, ruling her out as relationship material and being quite up there on the hot/crazy scale.

    And this is why I believe that "involuntarily celibates" are made-up bullshit for the Internet, which are supposedly only male, which makes it even more suspicious. It sounds almost like "incest" another deviant theme recently embraced by the porn industry.
     
  8. sonic123rainbow

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    I think these people are trash(Not every person on this planet is good some of people are trash like incels). Definition of incel to me is young male who blames the world for everything, but they're the reason for their suffering. I think it's easy to improve yourself. You just go to the library and start reading books, it's that simple and yet I don't see this advice being represented for incels, but that maybe due to fact that most people have lot of friends and they use all the time talking with them and since friends tend to be pretty similar, they never really change anything in them. So I think it's someway societys fault that these incels exist, but ultimately it is best for incels to just start taking all the blame, since this will the most beneficial thing for them. Einstein(propably did not say) said "
    Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results
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    And this is exactly what incels are doing, but we may never know since people who were incels are no more, since they took the fault on themself's.
     
  9. Captain!

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    Don't forget

    10. Do PMO

    Because ya know they are incels anyway.
     
  10. qwertyy

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    lmao some people are very unlucky genetically speaking tho you can't deny it, if a guy is black pilled because he's "naturally" very ugly, very small etc.. I wouldn't blame him for being an incel.

    Especially if his whole life consist of posting and reading stuff on reddit and incel forums, threads about guys that can fuck 200 different girls per year when he's himself a virgin at 35 years old, life is just not fair
     
  11. StarRider

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    Part of the brainwashing is to confuse "genetics" is for "looks". The primary use for genetics is to produce healthy offspring able to withstand and survive a corona pandemic for example. This is done by matching the immune systems of the male and female mating partner, so their offspring gets a superior one. How is this matching done? Well, automatically by meeting in person, a match is usually called "chemistry" - you will never find out by comparing dating profiles online - which is why the latter is BS.

    Especially for males looks don't really matter unless the female is addicted to porn as well. See where this is going? Porn heavily screws all mating choices.
     
  12. qwertyy

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    What ? Doesn't really matter if you call it looks or genetics, females don't need porn to naturally prefer tall, handsome, confident and masculine men, I have no idea what you're talking about . Some guys are automatically screwed by "looks" + drain themselves with pmo 5 times per day, have 0 drive or masculine energy so yeah to stay on topic, I can totally understand why they became incels
     
  13. StarRider

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    I was strictly speaking about looks. Females going for looks in males (including size of genitals) are usually addicted to porn.

    Confidence and masculinity is learned behavior and has nothing do with genetics at all. In fact healthy female mating choices are all about male behavior, not about male looks.
     
  14. NeedSomeHelp2

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    Hating Incels is fully understandable. First of all, if you are an incel, you are terrible at human communications. And also you are most likely really frustrated. People generally are afraid of homeless people aswell. With reasons, without money, food, and shelter people become desperate and commit crimes more often.
    Without love and sex and respect, people become needy and sex driven. They tend to rape more.
    But unlike homeless people where you can't hide that you are homeless, you can hide that you are incel.
    So if someone finds out you are an incel, he already knows that you are desperate, shitty communicator, and you are constantly try to get a partner thats why you can't keep your fate as a secret. I mean, why would you tell anyone your bodycount? And why would you tell anyone that you never slept with anyone? The fact that you tell someone, is the proof that you are desperate.
     
  15. NeedSomeHelp2

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    Humans try to defeat evolution and natural selection.
    But this way at least nature takes its toll.
    Its perfectly normal.
     
  16. embodiment of luck

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    Which statistics show that incel are more likely to rape a women then a sexy active person? Is a heat a little too strong an emotion for someone that is not good in communications, it is not like he is equal to someone that kills puppies or something. "and you are constantly try to get a partner" is that characteristic of Incels or is it a natural thing in humans?
     
  17. NeedSomeHelp2

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    I'm sure there will be statistics in a few years. Incel is a relatively new phenomenon.
    Why would sexy active people rape woman, when they can get woman without taking risk?
    I mean who is more likely to steal food, a rich person or a starving one?
    I'm not sure "constantly trying to get a partner" is a healthy thing, but lot of people do it. But most people can cope with pressure of society, incels dont.
    The truth is, people hate incels because they meet with terrible incels. You don't go and introduce yourself to everyone as an incel. People only find out that you are an incel when you are desperate and needy. Hence, they only see creepy incels. If you don't want to be judged, you either deal with society and stop being an incel, or hide the fact that you are an incel and concentrate on other important things than woman
     
  18. embodiment of luck

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    So you don't have statistics but you are sure that incels are main group that is responsible, I looked at statistics and found that most sexual predators had a criminal record from before and they had raped more then one person, so you can say they were sexually active. Being incel dose not mean you have more likely of committing rape, people who have criminal record are more likely to commit rape. You are assuming that incels go around and tell people that they are a virgin, witch I don't think it is a case.
     
  19. Freebliss

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    Incel is a state of mind. I don’t believe there are people out there that can’t get a girl friend. It may be harder and they probably won’t get the porn stars they are beating their meat too but their are incel women out there as well.

    I guess I was incel for 7 years and I never had that state of mind. I always knew if I got my shit together things would change. I worked on getting my shit together I took leaps in the face of bad social anxiety and things changed.

    An incel would look at me as a pretty good looking guy and make excuses and say well no wounder things changed for you. Well how come I had all these problems and didn’t get laid for 7 years? Looks don’t matter as much as your state of mind. A lack of confidence will hurt any man.

    I don’t hate incels I think it’s very sad. I believe in them more then they believe in their selfs.

    I look at things very bluntly as they are and I realize that we are a species out here trying to reproduce the best versions of ourselves. We are programmed to go for the best possible mate. Hot women are gonna go for their best options. That’s the way it is.

    Women in a way have it worse becuase their only power is Beauty. And their beauty (if they have it) fades. Their beauty have incels in this rage state of mind. But man can win with confidence and money.

    So the solution is to better yourself. Stop watching porn, workout, eat right, focus on your finances, learn social skills ect ect.
     
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2020 at 10:27 AM
  20. NeedSomeHelp2

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    You don't have statistics either, since there are no statistics on incels. "I looked at statistics and found that most sexual predators had a criminal record from before and they had raped more then one person, so you can say they were sexually active" So if I'm an incel and I rape a girl, from there on, I'm sexually active, so on the next rape I'm not an incel anymore? I would say, you stay an incel unless you find approbatory sex.
    "people who have criminal record are more likely to commit rape" everyone started somewhere. And every crime has a reason. People with reason are more likely to commit crime than people without reason. In fact, if you have no motive and you commit a crime you are a lunatic.

    "You are assuming that incels go around and tell people that they are a virgin, witch I don't think it is a case."
    How else would people know that you are an incel? Its not written on your forehead!
     

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