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Success beating Ogling

Discussion in 'Success Stories' started by Tannhauser, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. Tannhauser

    Tannhauser Fapstronaut

    I am approaching 200 days clean (and 320 days with only one relapse). I can't claim to be perfect yet, and I still struggle. BUT there is one area where I have seen remarkable strides, and that is with ogling.

    I still struggle with provocative images in print, on screens or in my imagination. But I have recently noticed that I have developed the strength to not give in when presented with an opportunity and temptation to ogle a real life flesh and blood woman. And I attribute that success to being conscious of what I am doing and how it impacts other people.
     
  2. Retentionman

    Retentionman Fapstronaut

  3. That is awesome! One thing we have definitely heard loud and clear from women is that ogling strangers can make them feel very uncomfortable, so well done. I've also been improving in this area, and it feels very empowering.
     
  4. control your life

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    nice job ,well done controling that!
     
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  5. Srisurya

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    Great dude. I too want to be strong like you. Cheers.
     
  6. TheProcedure

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    fire quote
     
  7. Harrynak

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    any tips or tricks for us that are struggeling with ooglin?

    I have it at the gym

    the clothes these girls were these days are (for me at least) unreal

    and its getting worser every week due to the "influencers" on instagram

    these girls believe they are just like the top athletes and dress just like them

    i have a hard time not to look at them, but if i do i feel like crap man
     
  8. Tannhauser

    Tannhauser Fapstronaut

    Oh man, it is so difficult! I hear you. I had to cut myself off of instagram for quite a while, because it can be so tempting.

    My problem is often seeing an attractive person in real life, and then thinking sexual thoughts about them. It usually starts with "only admiring" them, and then taking a second look. And then wondering what it would feel like to touch them. And then wondering what their sex life is like, and how often they do it, what they like to do in bed, etc. It's a bad rabbit hole. The worst is when I start to think in my head that the probably enjoy being looked at, and I start to feel "grateful" that they are sharing with the world (this applies to women in real life or online). Particularity difficult is when they have low cut tops that show off their chests. I have to try really hard not to stare, so I do three things instead.
    1. If I am talking to her, I look into her eyes and make it a game with myself, "can I not look?" and try to win.
    2. If I am not talking to her, but have to look in her directions, I look at the wall behind her, especially trying to notice things outside windows, art on the wall, etc.
    3. I look for distractions. For example, I count the people in the room. Or I look for patterns in the carpet. Anything.
    THIS is so important for me to overcome. I have read that it is so devastating to so many of the wives out there to find out that their man is checking out others, and I don't want to put my wife through that. I have found big success in trying to humanize the women around me. If I see an attractive woman, I try to think about her family (though not boyfriends or husbands! That leads into a loop, as I mentioned above). What are her parents like? Does she have kids? Siblings? I wonder what she studied in school, what she likes to eat, and what books she likes to read. Religious thoughts help too - trying to remember that she is a daughter of God, and that God loves her and wants her to be happy. I find that any thoughts that make me think of her as a person rather than as an object helps me to control my desire to constantly check her out.

    One last suggestion. I switched the time that I was going to the gym when I was really struggling with the women there a while back. I went much earlier in the morning, and the place was full of old men. Made life much easier.

    Good luck @Harrynak , I hope some of that helps. Anybody else have any suggestions for this?
     
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  9. Harrynak

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    Thank you mate really apriciate your input i Will tryy best
     
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  10. kropo82

    kropo82 Fapstronaut

    @Harrynak I've been keeping a list of useful ogling threads in one of my old journal posts, here, there are loads of techniques and motivations to be found in those threads. My own techniques are these (mostly borrowed from others here, plus one of my own):
     
  11. control your life

    control your life Distinguished Fapstronaut

    wow ,nice tips ,appreciate it man !
     
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  12. Harrynak

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    thank you for enlighting me with this knowledge, i am going to implement it and update …

    i notice when i dont see, i dont feel anything , no urges , no NOTHING

    butttttt , if i see a butt ( or something else)

    my mind goes in overdrive...

    so trying to keep it to a minimum
     
  13. That's the spirit. Well done... Congrates and all the very best
     
  14. whoa!

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  15. HelplessPleaseHelp?

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    Wow it is really insperational to hear you guys. I am struggling with ogling as well. I am not clean of watching other women. It is really hard for me stop doing this. They are so attractive and hot sometimes that it is hard not to stare.

    What I found helpful as well is to consider it is when I approach to a girl, as I want to talk to her and not hitting with her.
    It made my life much easier.

    Regarding watching women that I am not talking to, well this is something that I still do sometimes. But I believe it will get better.
     
  16. Here is one more thing you might try: describe the clothes she wears. Takes your mind of the body.

    It's so funny; when I have talked to a women and my wife askes me to describe her, I can only describe body things. Hair, length, 'volumes'. Women describe other women with much more social and style detail so I try to pay attention to those details too.
     
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  17. Just make your standarts higher. If I see girl with round butt in leggings (i hope I wrote it right), I think of what her morals and values in life are. For me she seems cheap as hell, so me, arrogant human being, tells also me, intelectual guy, that they are not even worth a stare, so fuck it! I train myself to look more to real woman. No fancy clothes, just beautiful eyes and soul. Cheers, mate!
     
  18. marr708

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    Until I started NoFap, I never realized what a perverted oogler I was. I would look at every woman between
    18 and 80 I think , "man, I'd do her." I would imagine little scenarios, then my head would spin to look at someone else and repeat the process. I thought it was harmless fun. Upon reflection, it basically cheating
    on my wife, not physically, but mentally. It like filming private porn scenes in your imagination, no computer necessary. All this has added to the growing disconnect I had developed with my wife over many years.
    I have opened my eyes to try to look at women and stay neutral or at least not picture them with their clothes
    off. It is difficult. In fact, now that I recognize my behavior, I have been looking at every girl/woman like a laser.
    For example we went to the plaza yesterday for dinner. The first thing I see is this stunning blonde in leggings with a unbelievable stripper's body walking down the street. I instantly turned my head and my wife said "Wow, check out that chic. What's up with her?" I refused to look [though that 1 sec image is burned my brain,ha]. It's odd. The more you think about not looking, makes you want to look more.
    Well, my wife and I sat down to dinner. I told her about my oogling and efforts not to objectify women.
    She understands it's all part of my PMO recovery. However, she doesn't judge me harshly at all. She's in the fashion industry and sees naked men and woman all the time. She says "you can look at other people and admire their beautiful bodies...but just don't be a total perv about it." That's cool.
     
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  19. I really appreciate this. I have recently stopped doing it. I think one of the reasons why i used to did it is because i like when a girl looks at me, and so when attraction kicks in hard i found it harder to not look. Today i noticed myself doing it a lot, pretty girls are my problem like i saw a girl in front a bit away and i thought to myself today i wonder if shes pretty and thought i guess I'll never know.

    There's a verse in the Qur'an for men:

    'Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.). That is purer for them. Verily, Allah is All-Aware of what they do.' Surah Nur Ayah 30

    I also heard this religious nasheed and it's just nice i think anyway related to lowering gaze.
     
  20. Krillin1993

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    After a long time I find out that, when I do "ogling" I won't do a second time, even if she is the prettiest girl on the planet. I mean anyone who has two eyes, can't control his eyes by seeing other people for the first time. Thats normal. We are humans and we are just reacting. What we can do is controling our own behaviour. Just dont look after those womans bodies a second time and dont lust after those woman. When you see a beautiful lady you have to control your breath with mindful breathing (like Thich Nhat Hanh he is teaching this), to put focus on other things and tell yourself in your mind "Beauty does not equal honesty" to yourself all the time, then it is much easier to suceed not being atracted to woman that easily. You need more doctrines to manifest to see the bigger picture. Thats what I do and it is getting better with my Nofap journey and I've learned from my mistakes and everything what triggered me seems now to blow away.
     
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